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The slashing can only occur if the validator can be proven to break certain rules e.g. double voting. The reports are evaluated by the network.

spywaregorilla 4y ago
> The reports are evaluated by the network. The network which was just shown to be 51% malicious actors? And how is it evaluated? What if the slasher is dishonest? What if it sends trillions of fake requests?
- drdeca 4y ago
  Evaluated in the same way that “does this address have enough to send to this much to this other address” is evaluated? If it isn’t valid, then a block containing it isn’t valid, and this is a thing which any client can automatically check. What happens if you try to send trillions of invalid transactions in any sensible chain?
  - spywaregorilla 4y ago
    Normally there's a fee to try and send such things to prevent such behavior. I haven't seen anything suggesting thats the case for slasher reports. The thing here is that the validators don't need to be honest when responding to a slasher report.
    - drdeca 4y ago
      Do you mean by claiming that the block containing it is invalid when it is valid, or visa versa? Or something else? Also, how can there be a fee to trying to send an invalid transaction? Such a fee would have to be sent as part of a transaction, yes? Isn’t it just that someone spamming the network gets dropped from the gossip protocol stuff?
  - Zamicol 4y ago
    To whatever node your client is talking to, the invalid transactions should not be relayed. This is more of a DDOS situation than anything novelly technical. Like all computer systems, DDOS is a technical challenge that requires careful consideration.
- rekoil 4y ago
  51% is possible, but if it happens someone has wasted (at current valuations) ~$15B gaining a majority stake in a network they are torpedoing. It would be pretty dumb to do something like that to your own investment.
  - vntok 4y ago
    So Elon Musk alone could do it on a whim, for the lolz?

spywaregorilla 4y ago

> The reports are evaluated by the network. The network which was just shown to be 51% malicious actors? And how is it evaluated? What if the slasher is dishonest? What if it sends trillions of fake requests?

drdeca 4y ago
Evaluated in the same way that “does this address have enough to send to this much to this other address” is evaluated? If it isn’t valid, then a block containing it isn’t valid, and this is a thing which any client can automatically check. What happens if you try to send trillions of invalid transactions in any sensible chain?
- spywaregorilla 4y ago
  Normally there's a fee to try and send such things to prevent such behavior. I haven't seen anything suggesting thats the case for slasher reports. The thing here is that the validators don't need to be honest when responding to a slasher report.
  - drdeca 4y ago
    Do you mean by claiming that the block containing it is invalid when it is valid, or visa versa? Or something else? Also, how can there be a fee to trying to send an invalid transaction? Such a fee would have to be sent as part of a transaction, yes? Isn’t it just that someone spamming the network gets dropped from the gossip protocol stuff?
- Zamicol 4y ago
  To whatever node your client is talking to, the invalid transactions should not be relayed. This is more of a DDOS situation than anything novelly technical. Like all computer systems, DDOS is a technical challenge that requires careful consideration.
rekoil 4y ago
51% is possible, but if it happens someone has wasted (at current valuations) ~$15B gaining a majority stake in a network they are torpedoing. It would be pretty dumb to do something like that to your own investment.
- vntok 4y ago
  So Elon Musk alone could do it on a whim, for the lolz?