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>This issue is highly ideological and politicized on both sides. Suggesting medical transition for any minor is not currently supported by the evidence. Neithe

>This issue is highly ideological and politicized on both sides. Suggesting medical transition for any minor is not currently supported by the evidence. Neither is conversion therapy, but SEGM happily associates itself with advocates for it , along with evangelical organizations. Indeed, such advocates are found among 'expert witnesses' in the Tavistock case. Maybe Vice should report on these associations. Maybe people who are just deeply concerned about child welfare should pay attention to them, too.

deepdriver 4y ago
As usual, trans activists have co-opted language of the gay rights movement (conversion therapy) to describe an altogether different situation: https://segm.org/danger_of_conflation https://segm.org/danger_of_conflation If you care about kids, don’t ignore the growing body of evidence that suggests youth transition is overwhelmingly harmful. Don’t ignore stories like Chloe’s: https://twitter.com/ChoooCole/status/1560495012999151616 https://twitter.com/ChoooCole/status/1560495012999151616 The harm will be obvious to all once the lawsuits get rolling: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/britains-gender-youth-clinic-faces-mass-legal-action/ https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/britains-gender-youth-...
- cholantesh 4y ago
  I don't think there is any 'danger of conflation', particularly, again, given that SEGM is also closely linked to evangelical organizations, who were trying this sort of thing 20 years ago with intelligent design. >If you care about kids, don’t ignore the growing body of evidence that suggests youth transition is overwhelmingly harmful. Don’t ignore stories like Chloe’s I think that the fact that transphobes can weaponize a few more anecdotes about detransitioning this year than last year is not particularly meaningful. In the aggregate, these stories account for a tiny minority: https://epath.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Boof-of-abstracts-EPATH2019.pdf https://epath.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Boof-of-abstract... https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS-Full-Report-Dec17.pdf https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262734734_An_Analysis_of_All_Applications_for_Sex_Reassignment_Surgery_in_Sweden_1960-2010_Prevalence_Incidence_and_Regrets https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262734734_An_Analys... https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(18)30057-2/fulltext#sec3.3 https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(18)30057-2/fu... The largest cohort comprises 8% of the sample, 62% of whom did so because they were pressured by their family, not because they had regrets about choosing to transition. >The harm will be obvious to all once the lawsuits get rolling Has the harm of MMR vaccination become obvious because lawsuits have managed to 'get rolling' and even succeeded in that context?
  - deepdriver 4y ago

deepdriver 4y ago

As usual, trans activists have co-opted language of the gay rights movement (conversion therapy) to describe an altogether different situation: https://segm.org/danger_of_conflation https://segm.org/danger_of_conflation If you care about kids, don’t ignore the growing body of evidence that suggests youth transition is overwhelmingly harmful. Don’t ignore stories like Chloe’s: https://twitter.com/ChoooCole/status/1560495012999151616 https://twitter.com/ChoooCole/status/1560495012999151616 The harm will be obvious to all once the lawsuits get rolling: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/britains-gender-youth-clinic-faces-mass-legal-action/ https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/britains-gender-youth-...

cholantesh 4y ago
I don't think there is any 'danger of conflation', particularly, again, given that SEGM is also closely linked to evangelical organizations, who were trying this sort of thing 20 years ago with intelligent design. >If you care about kids, don’t ignore the growing body of evidence that suggests youth transition is overwhelmingly harmful. Don’t ignore stories like Chloe’s I think that the fact that transphobes can weaponize a few more anecdotes about detransitioning this year than last year is not particularly meaningful. In the aggregate, these stories account for a tiny minority: https://epath.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Boof-of-abstracts-EPATH2019.pdf https://epath.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Boof-of-abstract... https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS-Full-Report-Dec17.pdf https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262734734_An_Analysis_of_All_Applications_for_Sex_Reassignment_Surgery_in_Sweden_1960-2010_Prevalence_Incidence_and_Regrets https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262734734_An_Analys... https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(18)30057-2/fulltext#sec3.3 https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(18)30057-2/fu... The largest cohort comprises 8% of the sample, 62% of whom did so because they were pressured by their family, not because they had regrets about choosing to transition. >The harm will be obvious to all once the lawsuits get rolling Has the harm of MMR vaccination become obvious because lawsuits have managed to 'get rolling' and even succeeded in that context?
- deepdriver 4y ago