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Take a look when outside and see if you ever see strollers or children with training wheels on bike lanes. Then ask, why don't you hear about the many deaths th

by belorn 4y ago

Take a look when outside and see if you ever see strollers or children with training wheels on bike lanes. Then ask, why don't you hear about the many deaths that should occur when those 50km/h bikes are crashing into those helpless children. The average speed of a bike, as measured in Netherlands, is around 15km/h. When there is snow the speed is generally even lower. It is also fairly common where I live to see parents use strollers on snowy days since the bike roads tend to be clear of snow before sidewalk. No one, neither police or other pedestrians, acts as if those parents are putting their children at mortal danger. Statistics also support this. A motorized two wheeler that can travel 50 km/h is not a bicycle, it is a moped. If its electrical then its an electric moped. Mopeds are not allowed where I live to use bike lanes unless they travel at the maximum speed of bikes. Mopeds also require a moped driving license and a license plate, and police can and has apprehended people who break the traffic law in this way.

LtWorf 4y ago
Parents don't let kids go on bike lanes until they are somewhat proficient. Certainly nobody with training wheels is going on trafficked bike lanes. Because most parents realize that would be reckless. > Mopeds are not allowed where I live to use bike lane Welcome to Sweden I guess… I think they are not allowed but they don't care. Electric or benzin engine alike.
- belorn 4y ago
  Parents let their kids be on the bike lane all the time. Just today on a small trip through the city, here in Sweden, with the weather being excellent, I saw around 10 kids around the age of 8 swirling on the bike lane. Naturally the parents biked next to them. I would slightly agree that parents that train their kids on training wheels should maybe select a better place than a trafficked bike lane, but I for one is not going to stop them and tell them how to raise their kids. I would definitively not call the police and social service. I would be much more concern seeing the same behavior on the road, and if they were on the highway I would consider it. > I think they are not allowed but they don't care. Electric or benzin engine alike. Mopedists are what they are, or rather young adults without a driving license will behave like they always have. Motorized teens. Of course some of them will break the law. Modified electric bikes are however fairly rare since moped strength engines are generally more expensive, and if you are paying that much already then the moped license is fairly cheap to get. Modified mopeds however that goes faster than 45 km/h are very common, especially the four-wheel ones. The legal age to get a driving license is 18 so there is also a incentive to break the law for those that are around 15-18.
neutronicus 4y ago
Here in Baltimore I see a lot of elderly people in mobility scooters traveling in the bike lanes as well.

by belorn 4y ago

LtWorf 4y ago

Parents don't let kids go on bike lanes until they are somewhat proficient. Certainly nobody with training wheels is going on trafficked bike lanes. Because most parents realize that would be reckless. > Mopeds are not allowed where I live to use bike lane Welcome to Sweden I guess… I think they are not allowed but they don't care. Electric or benzin engine alike.

belorn 4y ago
Parents let their kids be on the bike lane all the time. Just today on a small trip through the city, here in Sweden, with the weather being excellent, I saw around 10 kids around the age of 8 swirling on the bike lane. Naturally the parents biked next to them. I would slightly agree that parents that train their kids on training wheels should maybe select a better place than a trafficked bike lane, but I for one is not going to stop them and tell them how to raise their kids. I would definitively not call the police and social service. I would be much more concern seeing the same behavior on the road, and if they were on the highway I would consider it. > I think they are not allowed but they don't care. Electric or benzin engine alike. Mopedists are what they are, or rather young adults without a driving license will behave like they always have. Motorized teens. Of course some of them will break the law. Modified electric bikes are however fairly rare since moped strength engines are generally more expensive, and if you are paying that much already then the moped license is fairly cheap to get. Modified mopeds however that goes faster than 45 km/h are very common, especially the four-wheel ones. The legal age to get a driving license is 18 so there is also a incentive to break the law for those that are around 15-18.

neutronicus 4y ago

Here in Baltimore I see a lot of elderly people in mobility scooters traveling in the bike lanes as well.