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Quest 2 no longer requires a Facebook account starting today

40 points by guiambros 4y ago

andreareina 4y ago
Instead, it will require a Meta account
- m_st 4y ago
  I thought you were making a joke, but it's just a summary.
Icathian 4y ago
A "meta account" isn't any better. I really, really wish Oculus had been able to stay independent.
hajile 4y ago
The second you create your new Meta account instead of a Facebook account, they'll instantly be linking it to your Facebook account behind the scenes anyway -- even if you don't opt in. If you don't officially have a Facebook account, they'll link it to your shadow profile where they keep everything other people post about you. This is everything to do with branding and NOTHING to do with privacy.
- hendersoon 4y ago
  Nothing to do with privacy, certainly. It does offer some value, though. If your FB account was banned for whatever reason you would previously be unable to use your Oculus VR headset. Now, in theory, that isn't a concern.
coinbasetwwa 4y ago
I feel like this is the third time I’ve read this headline.
- makeitdouble 4y ago
  Yes, I feel the buzz they got when just randomly announcing they'd do something about the account situation gave them way too much leeway to take their sweet sweet time to actually deliver. It's been like 6 months since the first mention.
nottorp 4y ago
Someone please update the title to include the new Meta account requirement. Its too misleading like this, it Could lead people to believe it doesnt require registering with Facebook (or whatever they renamed themselves to this week) at all….
- kodah 4y ago
  Can confirm, they emailed me asking me to create a Meta account.
- JKCalhoun 4y ago
  > or whatever they renamed themselves to this week Bluewater? Zuc Services? Analytici?
willis936 4y ago
I haven't used my oculus cv1 since they added a non-oculus account requirement. A shame, really. Computers are finally getting to a point where driving a cv1 is a pleasant experience.
- causi 4y ago
  Driving a CV1 hasn't been difficult since the GTX 970 came out. Getting the damn cameras and play area to work for more than one session, now that's an unpleasant experience. Trying to use a CV1 anywhere other than directing in front of your desktop monitor is an experience I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
  - Arrath 4y ago
    Not an experience I've shared. I set up my office almost 4 years ago, even with a 5 month stretch of not using my Rift at all, and I've had no issue with the setup or cameras.
  - willis936 4y ago
    I had a great experience by mounting three cameras on the walls with some 3D printed holders + paint safe double sided tape. However my 4790k struggles to keep any kind of GPU fed in most games. It's not that it couldn't, in theory, but it does. Recent doom games being a notable exception. Also, just as graphics hardware has gotten more powerful games have become more demanding. Filling a high pixel clock with no stutters and <90 Hz 99.9% of the time isn't a task that can just be hand waved away. It isn't happening with cutting edge hardware and software today.
makeitdouble 4y ago
Reactions so far pretty much miss the point. The option for an account that is not a faceboof one goes beyond your believes about privacy or what you feel about Meta as a company in general. For instance the Meta account doesn't have a real ID policy, you won't get banned because your name doesn't look authentic. You also won't be subject to the whole legacy of restrictions and issues that were bound to facebook accounts. People who linked their real facebook to the quest of fear of getting flagged can also now isolate their accounts (even if behind the scene there is still a link, they won't be appearing in Horizon with their main account at least. And I'm just scratching the surface. Yes this move matters, even if it's not what everyone dreamed of.
- spywaregorilla 4y ago
  That's because Meta is currently just a hardware company. They aspire to be a platform company in a social metaverse. It won't take long, provided they actually manage to launch the product.
  - makeitdouble 4y ago
    The same way Instagram doesn't get all the Facebook rules injected into them, I'd expect Meta accounts and new services to keep different rules and different moderation. Like Instagram it might be gross on the backend and privacy data etc., but that ship has sailed the day Meta/Facebook bought Oculus. Nobody buying a Quest at this point should expect puppies and rainbows on that front.
cloudymeatballs 4y ago
KingOfCoders 4y ago
Meta send me an email yesterday that I dodged a Meta account for my Oculus but will be forced to in the future.
mattanimation 4y ago
oh great, good thing I JUST got a headset last week and had to link it to my wife's FB acct since I didn't have one.
- closetohome 4y ago
  And I returned mine after learning that all the press about it not requiring a Facebook account wasn't actually accurate until today. Kind of a coincidence that the price went up $100 right before this went through.
illuminerdy 4y ago
As a former Oculus device owner, I refused to upgrade as long as anything Facebook was required. I don't have a Facebook account and I never plan to get one. Same goes for Meta.
georgewsinger 4y ago
For an open headset that requires neither a Meta nor a Facebook account to operate: https://simulavr.com https://simulavr.com ... <kermit_drinking_tea.jpeg>
- jsymolon 4y ago
  Woof. MSRP: $3,499.00 USD Regular price$2,699.00 USD
  - kanetw 4y ago
    It's a significantly different segment than the Quest or Valve Index-- somewhere in between a Varjo and a Valve Index. With better economies of scale, we would be able to drop the price more/introduce more segmentation. As is we just have too many NRE costs that drive the price up.
  - georgewsinger 4y ago
    Here's also more discussion on Simula's price: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29923197 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29923197
no_time 4y ago
Still hoping for a tegra X1 level of fuckup in the bootrom. Or a tegra X1 level of vulnerability to fault injection. Not too eager to strap a piece of surveillance capitalism to my face without one of those.

40 points by guiambros 4y ago

andreareina 4y ago

Instead, it will require a Meta account

m_st 4y ago
I thought you were making a joke, but it's just a summary.

Icathian 4y ago

A "meta account" isn't any better. I really, really wish Oculus had been able to stay independent.

hajile 4y ago

The second you create your new Meta account instead of a Facebook account, they'll instantly be linking it to your Facebook account behind the scenes anyway -- even if you don't opt in. If you don't officially have a Facebook account, they'll link it to your shadow profile where they keep everything other people post about you. This is everything to do with branding and NOTHING to do with privacy.

hendersoon 4y ago
Nothing to do with privacy, certainly. It does offer some value, though. If your FB account was banned for whatever reason you would previously be unable to use your Oculus VR headset. Now, in theory, that isn't a concern.

coinbasetwwa 4y ago

I feel like this is the third time I’ve read this headline.

makeitdouble 4y ago
Yes, I feel the buzz they got when just randomly announcing they'd do something about the account situation gave them way too much leeway to take their sweet sweet time to actually deliver. It's been like 6 months since the first mention.

nottorp 4y ago

Someone please update the title to include the new Meta account requirement. Its too misleading like this, it Could lead people to believe it doesnt require registering with Facebook (or whatever they renamed themselves to this week) at all….

kodah 4y ago
Can confirm, they emailed me asking me to create a Meta account.
JKCalhoun 4y ago
> or whatever they renamed themselves to this week Bluewater? Zuc Services? Analytici?

willis936 4y ago

I haven't used my oculus cv1 since they added a non-oculus account requirement. A shame, really. Computers are finally getting to a point where driving a cv1 is a pleasant experience.

causi 4y ago
Driving a CV1 hasn't been difficult since the GTX 970 came out. Getting the damn cameras and play area to work for more than one session, now that's an unpleasant experience. Trying to use a CV1 anywhere other than directing in front of your desktop monitor is an experience I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
- Arrath 4y ago
  Not an experience I've shared. I set up my office almost 4 years ago, even with a 5 month stretch of not using my Rift at all, and I've had no issue with the setup or cameras.
- willis936 4y ago
  I had a great experience by mounting three cameras on the walls with some 3D printed holders + paint safe double sided tape. However my 4790k struggles to keep any kind of GPU fed in most games. It's not that it couldn't, in theory, but it does. Recent doom games being a notable exception. Also, just as graphics hardware has gotten more powerful games have become more demanding. Filling a high pixel clock with no stutters and <90 Hz 99.9% of the time isn't a task that can just be hand waved away. It isn't happening with cutting edge hardware and software today.

makeitdouble 4y ago

Reactions so far pretty much miss the point. The option for an account that is not a faceboof one goes beyond your believes about privacy or what you feel about Meta as a company in general. For instance the Meta account doesn't have a real ID policy, you won't get banned because your name doesn't look authentic. You also won't be subject to the whole legacy of restrictions and issues that were bound to facebook accounts. People who linked their real facebook to the quest of fear of getting flagged can also now isolate their accounts (even if behind the scene there is still a link, they won't be appearing in Horizon with their main account at least. And I'm just scratching the surface. Yes this move matters, even if it's not what everyone dreamed of.

spywaregorilla 4y ago
That's because Meta is currently just a hardware company. They aspire to be a platform company in a social metaverse. It won't take long, provided they actually manage to launch the product.
- makeitdouble 4y ago
  The same way Instagram doesn't get all the Facebook rules injected into them, I'd expect Meta accounts and new services to keep different rules and different moderation. Like Instagram it might be gross on the backend and privacy data etc., but that ship has sailed the day Meta/Facebook bought Oculus. Nobody buying a Quest at this point should expect puppies and rainbows on that front.

cloudymeatballs 4y ago

KingOfCoders 4y ago

Meta send me an email yesterday that I dodged a Meta account for my Oculus but will be forced to in the future.

mattanimation 4y ago

oh great, good thing I JUST got a headset last week and had to link it to my wife's FB acct since I didn't have one.

closetohome 4y ago
And I returned mine after learning that all the press about it not requiring a Facebook account wasn't actually accurate until today. Kind of a coincidence that the price went up $100 right before this went through.

illuminerdy 4y ago

As a former Oculus device owner, I refused to upgrade as long as anything Facebook was required. I don't have a Facebook account and I never plan to get one. Same goes for Meta.

georgewsinger 4y ago

For an open headset that requires neither a Meta nor a Facebook account to operate: https://simulavr.com https://simulavr.com ... <kermit_drinking_tea.jpeg>

jsymolon 4y ago
Woof. MSRP: $3,499.00 USD Regular price$2,699.00 USD
- kanetw 4y ago
  It's a significantly different segment than the Quest or Valve Index-- somewhere in between a Varjo and a Valve Index. With better economies of scale, we would be able to drop the price more/introduce more segmentation. As is we just have too many NRE costs that drive the price up.
- georgewsinger 4y ago
  Here's also more discussion on Simula's price: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29923197 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29923197

no_time 4y ago

Still hoping for a tegra X1 level of fuckup in the bootrom. Or a tegra X1 level of vulnerability to fault injection. Not too eager to strap a piece of surveillance capitalism to my face without one of those.