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> Yes same here. If a facebook engineer is reading this, you need to offer a "updates from my friends" timeline, separate from the rest. That only benefits the

by danwee 4y ago

> Yes same here. If a facebook engineer is reading this, you need to offer a "updates from my friends" timeline, separate from the rest. That only benefits the user, it doesn't benefit Facebook... so why it would be implemented at all? Do we really think Facebook (and other big platforms) are doing what they do in order to benefit their users? Please, it's 2022, Facebook et al. don't have to beg for our attention/loyalty; they effectively do whatever the hell they want. The sooner we stop using their services the better for the internet.

flerchin 4y ago
Engagement per user is not the only metric they have. DAU declines are an easy metric they can target. People are quitting Facebook because of these actively hostile patterns. They make, and charge for, money per user. Give the people what they want, and a chronological "updates from my friends" would retain a non-trivial tranche of users. Separately, I do tend to agree, social media with engagement feedback loops is _bad for most people_ like hard drugs. The sooner folks quit, the better it is for them.
bluGill 4y ago
It does benefit Facebook though. The current feed doesn't engage me. I want to see what my friends are doing - not the memes they are sharing or the divisive politics they are commenting on, but their life - original content that they are creating. If they would show me this I would stay on longer, and incidentally scroll past a lot more ads. Instead I see a few shared memes (which I've been "blocking all from the originator" for months now which only helps a little) and give up even though I know there are other friends who have actually done something with their life that I want to know about that I miss. I'm getting ready to drop facebook completely. They need to provide me more value if they want to sell my eyeballs.

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> Yes same here. If a facebook engineer is reading this, you need to offer a "updates from my friends" timeline, separate from the rest. That only benefits the

by danwee 4y ago

flerchin 4y ago
Engagement per user is not the only metric they have. DAU declines are an easy metric they can target. People are quitting Facebook because of these actively hostile patterns. They make, and charge for, money per user. Give the people what they want, and a chronological "updates from my friends" would retain a non-trivial tranche of users. Separately, I do tend to agree, social media with engagement feedback loops is _bad for most people_ like hard drugs. The sooner folks quit, the better it is for them.
bluGill 4y ago
It does benefit Facebook though. The current feed doesn't engage me. I want to see what my friends are doing - not the memes they are sharing or the divisive politics they are commenting on, but their life - original content that they are creating. If they would show me this I would stay on longer, and incidentally scroll past a lot more ads. Instead I see a few shared memes (which I've been "blocking all from the originator" for months now which only helps a little) and give up even though I know there are other friends who have actually done something with their life that I want to know about that I miss. I'm getting ready to drop facebook completely. They need to provide me more value if they want to sell my eyeballs.