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Going back to? We’re already there. Every media company decided they wanted to take their own slice instead of having a small number of services cover differe

Going back to? We’re already there. Every media company decided they wanted to take their own slice instead of having a small number of services cover different types of entertainment. At this point I’d rather pirate because a) it’s cheap as free b) I’m not at the mercy of my ISP deciding how fast my stream can go, and c) I never have to worry about a show I’m watching getting pulled and locked into another paywalled garden that probably has a shitty app that my HTPC doesn’t support in the middle of me watching it.

Markoff 4y ago
it's not even pirating in EU if you use DDL (or torrent without uploading), check question 8 and 11 for instance in Czechia, Slovakia, Spain, too lazy to check other countries, but these are well known for allowing streaming/downloading unauthorized uploads https://euipo.europa.eu/ohimportal/en/web/observatory/faq-cs#8 https://euipo.europa.eu/ohimportal/en/web/observatory/faq-cs...
- klez 4y ago
  I don't think "pirating" is a legal definition. By the way, point 8 has an important caveat at the beginning: "It is possible to make a copy of a work for personal use under the exceptions contained in the Czech Copyright Act." (Emphasis mine) Point 11 only says that you're not responsible for copyright infringement if your use falls into what's described in art.29 of the copyright act (the "three steps", which according to point 8 are described in that article), which according to google translate says --- > (1) Exceptions and limitations of copyright can only be applied in special cases established by law and only if such use of the work does not conflict with the normal way of using the work and neither does it the legitimate interests of the author are not unreasonably affected. > (2) Free use and legal licenses, with the exception of the official license and news (§ 34), license for school work (§ 35 par. 3), license for reproductions of works from own collections for archival and conservation needs [Section 37 paragraph 1 letter a)], license for temporary reproductions (§ 38a), a license for a photographic likeness (§ 38b) and a license for non-essentials secondary use of the work (§ 38c), apply only to the published work. --- Which to me reads like the usual fair use exceptions you find in other countries. In Italy, at least, downloading copyrighted content without authorization is not a felony, but you can still get fined. I expect much of the EU to have similar provisions.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  It’s illegal in Germany
AmVess 4y ago
The cost for streaming is pretty reasonable right now, but HBO splitting their offerings in half and most of them having ads unless you pay more to not have them will push a lot of people back to piracy. It is really easy these days to set up a media streaming app that automatically downloads new movies and shows, all you need is a VPN. No ads, and you don't need 300 different streaming apps.

Markoff 4y ago

it's not even pirating in EU if you use DDL (or torrent without uploading), check question 8 and 11 for instance in Czechia, Slovakia, Spain, too lazy to check other countries, but these are well known for allowing streaming/downloading unauthorized uploads https://euipo.europa.eu/ohimportal/en/web/observatory/faq-cs#8 https://euipo.europa.eu/ohimportal/en/web/observatory/faq-cs...

klez 4y ago
I don't think "pirating" is a legal definition. By the way, point 8 has an important caveat at the beginning: "It is possible to make a copy of a work for personal use under the exceptions contained in the Czech Copyright Act." (Emphasis mine) Point 11 only says that you're not responsible for copyright infringement if your use falls into what's described in art.29 of the copyright act (the "three steps", which according to point 8 are described in that article), which according to google translate says --- > (1) Exceptions and limitations of copyright can only be applied in special cases established by law and only if such use of the work does not conflict with the normal way of using the work and neither does it the legitimate interests of the author are not unreasonably affected. > (2) Free use and legal licenses, with the exception of the official license and news (§ 34), license for school work (§ 35 par. 3), license for reproductions of works from own collections for archival and conservation needs [Section 37 paragraph 1 letter a)], license for temporary reproductions (§ 38a), a license for a photographic likeness (§ 38b) and a license for non-essentials secondary use of the work (§ 38c), apply only to the published work. --- Which to me reads like the usual fair use exceptions you find in other countries. In Italy, at least, downloading copyrighted content without authorization is not a felony, but you can still get fined. I expect much of the EU to have similar provisions.
Semaphor 4y ago
It’s illegal in Germany

AmVess 4y ago

The cost for streaming is pretty reasonable right now, but HBO splitting their offerings in half and most of them having ads unless you pay more to not have them will push a lot of people back to piracy. It is really easy these days to set up a media streaming app that automatically downloads new movies and shows, all you need is a VPN. No ads, and you don't need 300 different streaming apps.