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There's a permanent fix for bugs like these: 1. log out of Facebook. 2. Delete the app from your phone. 3. That's it.
by Jaruzel 4y ago
There's a permanent fix for bugs like these:
1. log out of Facebook.
2. Delete the app from your phone.
3. That's it.
- deleted 4y ago[deleted]
- xen2xen1 4y ago"Delete Facebook, The New Virtue Signaling", by every HN commentor ever.
- fritztastic 4y agoIf you have a pebble in your shoe and it's bothering you, is it not good advice to remove the pebble and go about your day (as opposed to trying to make the pebble become less uncomfortable)?
- zinekeller 4y agoBecause in this case your analogy is not perfect. There are many reasons why a user is forced to use Facebook. As a user pointed out, if your society has basically mandated using Facebook to interact with basic life, the suggestion to remove Facebook without sugesting replacements for the whole society is just being plainly obtuse.
- trombone5000 4y agoWhy is anyone forced to use Facebook? I, for one, get along great without it.
- zinekeller 4y agoYour anecdote, while I presume is true, doesn't address the main point. You should probably read Gualdrapo's experience (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32576061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32576061), and I find it true on large swaths of Latin America and Asia.
- baby 4y agoI, for one, would lose contact to a lot of my friends if I deleted facebook (and already have lost contact with some of them because they selfishly deleted their fb)
- branon 4y agoYou've commented twice here to the effect that there are many reasons why a person might be forced to use Facebook. Care to elaborate? I can't think of any. If the society in which one lives is backwards to the point of mandating a Facebook account to interact on a basic level... it might be time to turn on, tune in, drop out. Gualdrapo's post doesn't actually say anything about why he _needs_ to use Facebook. Neighboorhood groups and FB marketplace are not necessary to live. I think we might be conflating needs and wants here. Being accustomed to doing things in specific ways is not a need.
- zinekeller 4y ago> If the society in which you live is backwards to the point of mandating a Facebook account to interact on a basic level... it might be time to turn on, tune in, drop out. That's why it's de facto forced on to you. Ministries (Americans: Departments, not religious ministries) are usually only reachable either on Facebook or by physically traveling hours to their office. Facebook groups are the communication platform for any community point-of-contact, and most are set to only be accessible by having a Facebook account. As a society, is it avoidable? Yes. As an individual? Good luck convincing others. It might be hard to wrap your head around it if you were not living in such an area, so thank your government that you have a say on your communication.
- branon 4y agoI understand this. It seems like this situation would be avoidable by an individual, but not by society at large because most individuals would take the path of least resistance. Could you send mail through the post? Call on a telephone?
- zinekeller 4y ago> Could you send mail through the post? Technically? But in my experience as a foreigner that have lived in Thailand, mail services are atrocious. It's unlike in Singapore or UK where it's excellent. It's even weirder considering parcels on the Amazon-equivalent (Lazada and Shopee) are faster on this one. > Call on a telephone? Mobile-to-telephone charges are obscene to the point that it's cheaper to use an international VoIP service to call (just to remind you that most people here are those who would skip and never experienced any telephones altogether) and unsurprisingly these are the kinds of government to ban unapproved VoIP to its citizens. I have used Thailand here, but it's the same in Brazil (or from what I heard nowadays, was, but they still apparently used Meta's services extensively) except for the citizen-legal VoIP loophole.
- bamboozled 4y agoHow it is virtue signalling? Is advising people not to smoke "virtue signalling" or just good advice?
- hurril 4y agoYou have a problem with autodiallers calling you to talk about auto insurances? Just throw away your phones, problem solved.
- darkwater 4y agoIf the autodialers were part of the phone company AND the makers of your phone, yeah throw away your phone would be sound advice. Yes, Facebook is that.
- hurril 4y agoAre you telling me that it would be impossible for the phone companies to do away with this problem? That they're not making any money from it? The keyword here is network effect.
- darkwater 4y agoI don't live in the USA, I live in Europe and we don't have anymore a robo-call issue (if we ever had it at all), heck I would say we don't almost even have a cold-call from call-centers issue anymore (it was totally an issue a few years ago).Probably because it was... regulated?
- hurril 4y agoOh, the Europe Country. I live in a country in Europe too and we do have a problem with cold calls. There was an attempt at regulating it, there's also a service you can subscribe to that supposedly hinders this. Doesn't work though because there are lists of phone numbers and addresses that can be bought that still give you access. And if you're considered a customer, which is extremely loosely defined, they can call you. Sure, it's far from as bad as it seems to be in the US but my personal threshold is 0.
- nathanaldensr 4y agoVirtue signaling is explicitly not taking any real action, such as deleting your Facebook account and removing their apps.
- deleted 4y ago[deleted]
- blitzar 4y agoSaying something is virtue signalling, the ultimate virtue signalling. Its up there with people that get triggered by how "people get triggered by the most insignificant things these days".
- baby 4y agoThey’d need to have used facebook at some point in their lives
- indymike 4y agoSpending less time with Facebook is a positive step towards better mental health, not a virtue signal.
- raverbashing 4y agoI second the 'deleting the app' part, even if you want to keep using it. The mobile web page works fine (and actually seemed to have a different front page algo - at least some time ago)
- ipqk 4y ago4. Use Instagram (and pretend they're not the same company)
- andsoitis 4y agoYou want to delete your account too.
- Jaruzel 4y agoYou'll note I didn't say that, as for some people deleting their FB account is not an option. I do heed my own advice; I do not have the FB app installed on my phone.
- indymike 4y agoI did this a couple of years ago. Nothing bad happened.