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Reminds me of the discussion about GitHub Copilot using the entirety of GitHub as training data. I was honestly baffled how many people, even experts in the fie
by xg15 4y ago
Reminds me of the discussion about GitHub Copilot using the entirety of GitHub as training data. I was honestly baffled how many people, even experts in the field, saw use as training data as non-infringing. With the corrolay that it's apparently perfectly legal to "copyright-wash" a work by feeding it to an AI and have that AI generate a slightly different but extremely similar work.
Considering how strict and heavy-handed copyright handling has been otherwise, this has added to my belief that copyright in practice is really just enforcement of the interests of whatever industry has the most power at a given time: When entertainment and content generation was the biggest revenue generator, copyright couldn't be strict enough, now all money is on AI and suddenly loopholes the size of barn doors pop up.
- rich_sasha 4y agoWritten laws are vague, practical verdicts are based on case law, cases are won by better-funded lawyers, rich industries prevail. It's a bit of an exaggeration but maybe not too much.
- wongarsu 4y agoThese loopholes are purely theoretical until tested in court. At some point a generating AI will hurt the wrong company, and they will either make a public spectacle out of it in court, or if they see no chance of winning lobby congress to introduce laws that make the case winnable.
- xg15 4y agoYeah, things should get interesting when the first model makes use of Rings of Power or House of the Dragon footage or whatever the latest superhero movie is. I wonder if we'll see a "Hollywood vs Silicon Valley" lobbying battle. Or possibly "Amazon media division vs Amazon AI division"...
- namrog84 4y agoI think silicon valley would win. I saw some analysis a long time a go that basically indicated a couple big companies could likely buy out the entire Hollywood and music industry and fully own them and make most copyright issues go away. I dont know if its still true but its really a big difference in how much capital, revenue, and money there is. Hollywood is pennies in comparison. I think Big tech would easily win.
- Karunamon 4y ago"Copyright washing" seems a lot like clean room reverse engineering to me; this is usually done by having one person read the copyrighted code and describe what it does to another person, who then designs an implementation based on the description. At least, I can't see a substantial difference in the result.