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> car squeezes past you at high speed many cyclist don't understand this because they are bad drivers the point of passing a bike on the road is to avoid the

> car squeezes past you at high speed many cyclist don't understand this because they are bad drivers the point of passing a bike on the road is to avoid the danger you as a driver pose for the bike in the case of an unexpected event. like if the biker falls. clearing up the way as fast as possible is safer for both. Doesn't matter who's faster in the end, if that was the purpose, it would suffice for drivers to not respect traffic laws, like many bikers do, for the exact purpose of arriving to the destination sooner. Of course you are faster if your parking technique involves blocking the road for pedestrian, especially hadicapped people, like this https://blog.urbanfile.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/2019-02-18_Milano_Motorini_Biciclette_Marciapidei_Incivilt%C3%A0_42-1024x768.jpg https://blog.urbanfile.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/2019-0... or this https://blog.urbanfile.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/2019-02-18_Milano_Motorini_Biciclette_Marciapidei_Incivilt%C3%A0_6-1024x768.jpg https://blog.urbanfile.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/2019-0... (real pictures in Milan one of the cities where bikes are more popular in Italy and they have become a problem for everyone else) the point is also that bikers should be in charge of their own safety, if a road is very narrow they are voluntarily endangering themselves for no reason, no other road user should be responsible for your safety more than you! that also apply to motorbikes, mopeds, scooters etc which are harder to drive because they rely on the gyroscope effect and only.have two wheels, they do not stand in case of sudden stop, the user can only fall or be shoot forward with grave consequences. so they should care for their life more than a driver that is protected by the car case. I wish I could show you the suicidal moves tourists make in my city (Rome) while riding electric scooters, two people, while the regulation says only one person can ride them, in the middle of high speed roads, with no knowledge of how the traffic works in a city they do not know, like it's OK to be idiots trying to die (and possibly ruin the life of someone else who happens to cross their path on a motor vehicle) Not saying people shouldn't use alternatives means of transport, I do.not drive often anymore, I walk As a pedestrian bikes are much more disruptive than cars for me, even though I'd like to ban cars from every city center in Italy. > 40% of non-cyclists in London say the danger of cycling is a significant factor in their decision not to cycle. people make a lot of excuses when confronted with something that they do not want to do. if they asked them why they do not exercise they would say that they have no time due to work or that the water of the pool is too cold, but the real reason is that they prefer the couch with Netflix. we should never take those polls too seriously.

matthewmacleod 4y ago
No - as someone who has cycled extensively in London, it is very obviously not the case that drivers are squeezing past cyclists out of a desire to keep them safe. It’s a pretty laughable idea. The vast majority of drivers are actually totally fine and courteous on the road. But when a moderate cycle can take you past literally hundreds of cars, even a tiny percentage of discourteous drivers can make the whole experience of cycling extremely unpleasant.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  they are not tying to save you, they are trying to save themselves from hitting you because the cars behind don't see the bike and assume you are going slowly just because and road rage is the most dangerous thing while driving. please understand than bikers don't make a good judge, because they are biased to think everyone is trying to kill them because everyone hates how free and both environmentally and physically better they are than everyone else. this thread started with someone claiming that bikes are "healthy, less noisy, creates vastly less pollution, less dangerous to pedastrians" which are only claims, not facts. the fact that I sometimes drive for 30kms with a car and walk the rest of the times, doesn't make me less healthy or more polluting,it's just propaganda fueled by self righteousness which doesn't help the matter at hands: why bikers love to take on cars, while, like it or not, cars are still the main users of roads because the astonishing amount of taxes road users have to pay, pay for those roads and their maintenance. I hate cars in walkable cities, but I understand that walking is better for me, I don't blame people driving, I just avoid them. I would like to avoid bikes too, but they use the pavement I'm walking on 'because roads aren't safe', like their right to defend their safety overrides my right to not be bothered where only pedestrian should walk. I don't feel safe walking in the middle of the street, even though no law here prohibits it, I simply don't do it. If a road is too dangerous to walk, I change directions. There'll be a day when all of this won't b necessary, in the meantime, while some scientist invents the "no danger machine" everyone risk their life by simply living. House accidents cause more death than accidents between bikes and cars in my Country, heck, they cause 4x more deaths than car accidents!, so bikes are still much safer than staying home anyway, enjoy the biking and stop complaining.

matthewmacleod 4y ago

No - as someone who has cycled extensively in London, it is very obviously not the case that drivers are squeezing past cyclists out of a desire to keep them safe. It’s a pretty laughable idea. The vast majority of drivers are actually totally fine and courteous on the road. But when a moderate cycle can take you past literally hundreds of cars, even a tiny percentage of discourteous drivers can make the whole experience of cycling extremely unpleasant.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
they are not tying to save you, they are trying to save themselves from hitting you because the cars behind don't see the bike and assume you are going slowly just because and road rage is the most dangerous thing while driving. please understand than bikers don't make a good judge, because they are biased to think everyone is trying to kill them because everyone hates how free and both environmentally and physically better they are than everyone else. this thread started with someone claiming that bikes are "healthy, less noisy, creates vastly less pollution, less dangerous to pedastrians" which are only claims, not facts. the fact that I sometimes drive for 30kms with a car and walk the rest of the times, doesn't make me less healthy or more polluting,it's just propaganda fueled by self righteousness which doesn't help the matter at hands: why bikers love to take on cars, while, like it or not, cars are still the main users of roads because the astonishing amount of taxes road users have to pay, pay for those roads and their maintenance. I hate cars in walkable cities, but I understand that walking is better for me, I don't blame people driving, I just avoid them. I would like to avoid bikes too, but they use the pavement I'm walking on 'because roads aren't safe', like their right to defend their safety overrides my right to not be bothered where only pedestrian should walk. I don't feel safe walking in the middle of the street, even though no law here prohibits it, I simply don't do it. If a road is too dangerous to walk, I change directions. There'll be a day when all of this won't b necessary, in the meantime, while some scientist invents the "no danger machine" everyone risk their life by simply living. House accidents cause more death than accidents between bikes and cars in my Country, heck, they cause 4x more deaths than car accidents!, so bikes are still much safer than staying home anyway, enjoy the biking and stop complaining.