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It is already Tesla's plan to build AWS-style paid access to Dojo. I think they said that during the first AI Day. Here's a 19 minute supercut of AI Day: https

by kjksf 4y ago

It is already Tesla's plan to build AWS-style paid access to Dojo. I think they said that during the first AI Day. Here's a 19 minute supercut of AI Day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keWEE9FwS9o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keWEE9FwS9o

londons_explore 4y ago
I suspect they've just deprioritized it for other work. But I think that was the wrong strategic move - they should have opened it up, together with some 'Tesla AI' demo models, in a colab environment. They can hire new employees to do that - it is separate work from that involved in making the self driving car, and will not block or interfere. The only reason I think they might not is that they don't want to step on Googles toes - there are very close links between Musk companies and Google, and a direct competitor to Googles TPU product might hurt that relationship more than it generates in revenue.
- schiffern 4y ago
  > They can hire new employees The bottleneck isn't employees, it's chips.
  - londons_explore 4y ago
    If that were the case, they'd have already launched a 'demo' version with very low usage limits. Users can start building/porting their models, and then run them in a few months when the next batch of chips arrives.
    - epgui 4y ago
      Sometimes R&D just takes time.
      - londons_explore 4y ago
        The idea of having it publicly accessible has been public for 3 years. Maybe internally for more than that. Yet, building a basic colab-like interface, using opensource tools, shouldn't take more than a few people a few months. Obviously, they might not want to launch that before their hardware is ready, but their hardware has been in production for over a year now. Clearly something hasn't gone to plan.
- epgui 4y ago
  What makes you think they deprioritized “it”?
- itsoktocry 4y ago
  >and a direct competitor to Googles TPU product might hurt that relationship more than it generates in revenue. There is approximately zero chance that this is a consideration. My guess would be that, like a lot of things under the Elon Musk umbrella, what they claim they are able to do in theory diverges far from reality. We've seen similar slideshows.

by kjksf 4y ago

londons_explore 4y ago

I suspect they've just deprioritized it for other work. But I think that was the wrong strategic move - they should have opened it up, together with some 'Tesla AI' demo models, in a colab environment. They can hire new employees to do that - it is separate work from that involved in making the self driving car, and will not block or interfere. The only reason I think they might not is that they don't want to step on Googles toes - there are very close links between Musk companies and Google, and a direct competitor to Googles TPU product might hurt that relationship more than it generates in revenue.

schiffern 4y ago
> They can hire new employees The bottleneck isn't employees, it's chips.
- londons_explore 4y ago
  If that were the case, they'd have already launched a 'demo' version with very low usage limits. Users can start building/porting their models, and then run them in a few months when the next batch of chips arrives.
  - epgui 4y ago
    Sometimes R&D just takes time.
    - londons_explore 4y ago
      The idea of having it publicly accessible has been public for 3 years. Maybe internally for more than that. Yet, building a basic colab-like interface, using opensource tools, shouldn't take more than a few people a few months. Obviously, they might not want to launch that before their hardware is ready, but their hardware has been in production for over a year now. Clearly something hasn't gone to plan.
epgui 4y ago
What makes you think they deprioritized “it”?
itsoktocry 4y ago
>and a direct competitor to Googles TPU product might hurt that relationship more than it generates in revenue. There is approximately zero chance that this is a consideration. My guess would be that, like a lot of things under the Elon Musk umbrella, what they claim they are able to do in theory diverges far from reality. We've seen similar slideshows.