The real problem is that quoting an hourly rate simply does not make sense for PHP. There are very good frameworks where users can get extremely productive. I'v

The real problem is that quoting an hourly rate simply does not make sense for PHP. There are very good frameworks where users can get extremely productive. I've seen a guy who flies through Symfony code it is a pleasure to watch. I wonder if one is going to hire PHP developers, running a side by side competition is a good gauge of who groks it, vs who is just learning it.