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Inevitable successor to this: a TikTok-style adaptive porn feed that learns exactly what you like and starts generating porn customized to your kinks and prefer

Inevitable successor to this: a TikTok-style adaptive porn feed that learns exactly what you like and starts generating porn customized to your kinks and preferences.

woudsma 4y ago
And then sells your preferences to the highest bidder. A bit like the Westworld HBO series.
- inwyu001 4y ago
dgs_sgd 4y ago
Porn addiction is already a serious problem for many people. Combine an enhanced version of this model with TikTok style delivery and I’m very fearful of the end result. It’ll be the equivalent of crack in terms of the dopamine rush.
- sbf501 4y ago
  We may experience the first ever dopamine burnout. How much can the brain handle? Remember the film "Brainstorm" from the 1980's? Where the guy almost dies because he blasts a real-life full brain capture of sex into his own brain in a loop for days? We'll probably learn if there is a thing as too much dopamine.
  - Melting_Harps 4y ago
    > Remember the film "Brainstorm" from the 1980's? Where the guy almost dies because he blasts a real-life full brain capture of sex into his own brain in a loop for days? No, I had to go look for it and it was on youtube (NSFW) but is this the scene [0] you're talking about? This was likely what inspired the braindance features in Cyberpunk 2077, it's pretty much the 1980s iteration (with a massive tape) on what looks like a futuristic VHS cassette and a phone for some reason. Well, it wasn't exactly just dopamine, but there was woman who pleased herself to severe level [1] with 30 min orgasms that impacted her entire life, it's a become a meme on JRE [2]. Sidenote: this is probably the only film where Chris Walken wasn't like he is portrayed now, even Kings of NY had that vibe about him but here he is kind of... normal? 0: https://youtu.be/cOGAEAJ4xJE?t=2969 https://youtu.be/cOGAEAJ4xJE?t=2969 1: https://www.zmescience.com/other/feature-post/brain-pain-center-brain-24052013/ https://www.zmescience.com/other/feature-post/brain-pain-cen... 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq6KMk8tkNE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq6KMk8tkNE
  - jcims 4y ago
    I cringe at the thought of watching it again and dismantling it from the very high place it currently stands on my all-time favorite movies list. Mostly just for the concept, I can't even remember the plot.
    - sbf501 4y ago
      Unlike other films from my childhood, it holds up very well, mostly due to the actors. The very, very last moment (what "really" happens at death), however, is awful.
  - floren 4y ago
    Reminds me of an Arthur C Clarke story, Patent Pending: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Pending_(short_story) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Pending_(short_story)
- tianshuo 4y ago
  Sorry but to say, TikTok for P*rn has already been made, works for iOS and Android. Probably already has millions of users, with a percentage of them uploading original content. Not giving the name or link here for obvious reasons.
- WHITE11 4y ago
LewisVerstappen 4y ago
It’s Time to Build
- wildpeaks 4y ago
  "If you build it, they will come" takes a new meaning
  - pmayrgundter 4y ago
    clap clap clap
  - caf 4y ago
    As does "normalization of deviance".
    - Zuider 4y ago
      This could get very ugly if the algorithm begins to generate images of underage persons in response to the preferences of those twitter users who have 'MAP' in their biography, an acronym which stands for 'minor-attracted person.'
      - LoganDark 4y ago
        That's why we shouldn't be giving those people nice things.
      - dnbdave 4y ago
        MAP huh? Exactly a TIL I really hope comes in handy for Jeopardy one day.
crotho 4y ago
dymk 4y ago
I'm having some trouble finding it through search, but if I recall, this project was submitted to HN at some point.
- bkanber 4y ago
  Was it this one? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9847283 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9847283 If so, it existed for a while but shut down years ago.
  - dymk 4y ago
    Yes, I think this is it. It wasn't generated porn, but it would hone in on what you liked similar to Tic Tac.
collegeburner 4y ago
hmm yes that will definitely not totally fuck up the dopamine systems of young men and make an already badly addicted generation hopelessly dependent on this shit
- LewisVerstappen 4y ago
  We lost that battle a decade ago
- stavros 4y ago
  Better than Instagram, at least.
  - collegeburner 4y ago
    no, its gonna have people combining dark pattern skinner box shit from insta and tiktok with the addictive nature of porn. and its gonna be way worse. yall wouldn't believe me if i told you how common straight up porn addiction is in young kids, it's fucking bad already. edit: @stickfigure i'm can y'all please quit trying to tar me with this brush, it's bullshit. i'm not arguing about masturbation i'm saying excessive consumption of porn when people have limitless access to weird ass shit that doesn't reflect the real world is causing problems. don't try to make me some puritan or whatever because literally nothing i said suggests that.
    - stickfigure 4y ago
- deleted 4y ago
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- tagami 4y ago
  /snark Welcome to the metaverse
- superkuh 4y ago
  Porn "addiction" and all that hand wringing is just FUD from the moral panic types and the skeezy media "doctors" that prey on them. In fact non-substance "addictions" aren't recognized at all. "Gambling disorder" is presently the only condition in the subsection of "Non-substance-related disorders" in DSM 5. Addiction mediated by chemicals that directly increase perceptions of incentive salience through mesolimbic dopaminergic activation are real addictions. Perceptions of sensory stimuli come in through the normal paths do not directly hijack any part of the brain like addictive chemicals do. Downstream of the stimuli there may be reward learning but it's through normal channels, not directly turning up incentive salience. You actually have to like/enjoy something first before reward learning happens.
moomoo11 4y ago
That would be a cause for the models on TikTok to unionize because that’s taking their jobs away.
- XorNot 4y ago
  There's a business model in there though: the algorithms need well tagged poses and images, and one of the biggest issues with sex work is that it is used to attack people in other areas of their lives (even in a perfect society for this, the desire not to be directly personally associated as a part of your identity would probably still exist). If you can retain paying customers, and then pay performers for a supply of source material (which won't, unaltered, ever end up in customer hands) then there's a new business model somewhere in there.
- kbenson 4y ago
  The really smart models will put together an AI to generate images of them using only their own images as training data, and then they can sit back and profit. Eventually we'll be watching generated personalities on twitch playing video games, and then we'll know the end is nigh. There is no infinity, eventually the snake chokes on its own tail...
  - Barrin92 4y ago
    >Eventually we'll be watching generated personalities on twitch playing video games that won't happen because the entire value proposition is in the personal connection to the streamer. (the modern derogatory term is 'parasocial relationship'). just like nobody watches chess computers or starcraft bots play nobody is going to watch bots play games. in fact to stay on the topic of the thread, people are making millions on onlyfans because they realized chatting with their viewers is much more valuable than generic pornography.
    - Ancapistani 4y ago
      > the entire value proposition is in the personal connection to the streamer Right - that’s where the money is made. The people that pay them have to be found in the broader market, though, and that’s where this sort of thing would shine. A streamer could pump out a stupid amount of content with this, always fresh and new, with little or no ongoing time commitment. That in turn would free up their time to provide personalized content to paying customers.
throwawaysleep 4y ago
I would happily pay $100 a month for that.
EddySchauHai 4y ago
If people wanted to work on this, I genuinely believe that could be huge.
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6510 4y ago
For the general public you mean. I'm sure Bezos already has a feed of "urinate in pants". Why the downvote? At 15 $/h his 162.7 billion could buy 1.24 million years worth of bathroom breaks. You want to argue other motivations are at play here?
- markdown 4y ago
  So, just a feed of Liam Neeson? https://cheezburger.com/13330949/liam-neesons-unapologetic-pants-pissing-a-thread https://cheezburger.com/13330949/liam-neesons-unapologetic-p...
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Inevitable successor to this: a TikTok-style adaptive porn feed that learns exactly what you like and starts generating porn customized to your kinks and preferences.

woudsma 4y ago

And then sells your preferences to the highest bidder. A bit like the Westworld HBO series.

inwyu001 4y ago

dgs_sgd 4y ago

Porn addiction is already a serious problem for many people. Combine an enhanced version of this model with TikTok style delivery and I’m very fearful of the end result. It’ll be the equivalent of crack in terms of the dopamine rush.

sbf501 4y ago
We may experience the first ever dopamine burnout. How much can the brain handle? Remember the film "Brainstorm" from the 1980's? Where the guy almost dies because he blasts a real-life full brain capture of sex into his own brain in a loop for days? We'll probably learn if there is a thing as too much dopamine.
- Melting_Harps 4y ago
  > Remember the film "Brainstorm" from the 1980's? Where the guy almost dies because he blasts a real-life full brain capture of sex into his own brain in a loop for days? No, I had to go look for it and it was on youtube (NSFW) but is this the scene [0] you're talking about? This was likely what inspired the braindance features in Cyberpunk 2077, it's pretty much the 1980s iteration (with a massive tape) on what looks like a futuristic VHS cassette and a phone for some reason. Well, it wasn't exactly just dopamine, but there was woman who pleased herself to severe level [1] with 30 min orgasms that impacted her entire life, it's a become a meme on JRE [2]. Sidenote: this is probably the only film where Chris Walken wasn't like he is portrayed now, even Kings of NY had that vibe about him but here he is kind of... normal? 0: https://youtu.be/cOGAEAJ4xJE?t=2969 https://youtu.be/cOGAEAJ4xJE?t=2969 1: https://www.zmescience.com/other/feature-post/brain-pain-center-brain-24052013/ https://www.zmescience.com/other/feature-post/brain-pain-cen... 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq6KMk8tkNE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq6KMk8tkNE
- jcims 4y ago
  I cringe at the thought of watching it again and dismantling it from the very high place it currently stands on my all-time favorite movies list. Mostly just for the concept, I can't even remember the plot.
  - sbf501 4y ago
    Unlike other films from my childhood, it holds up very well, mostly due to the actors. The very, very last moment (what "really" happens at death), however, is awful.
- floren 4y ago
  Reminds me of an Arthur C Clarke story, Patent Pending: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Pending_(short_story) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Pending_(short_story)
tianshuo 4y ago
Sorry but to say, TikTok for P*rn has already been made, works for iOS and Android. Probably already has millions of users, with a percentage of them uploading original content. Not giving the name or link here for obvious reasons.
WHITE11 4y ago

LewisVerstappen 4y ago

It’s Time to Build

wildpeaks 4y ago
"If you build it, they will come" takes a new meaning
- pmayrgundter 4y ago
  clap clap clap
- caf 4y ago
  As does "normalization of deviance".
  - Zuider 4y ago
    This could get very ugly if the algorithm begins to generate images of underage persons in response to the preferences of those twitter users who have 'MAP' in their biography, an acronym which stands for 'minor-attracted person.'
    - LoganDark 4y ago
      That's why we shouldn't be giving those people nice things.
    - dnbdave 4y ago
      MAP huh? Exactly a TIL I really hope comes in handy for Jeopardy one day.

crotho 4y ago

dymk 4y ago

I'm having some trouble finding it through search, but if I recall, this project was submitted to HN at some point.

bkanber 4y ago
Was it this one? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9847283 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9847283 If so, it existed for a while but shut down years ago.
- dymk 4y ago
  Yes, I think this is it. It wasn't generated porn, but it would hone in on what you liked similar to Tic Tac.

collegeburner 4y ago

hmm yes that will definitely not totally fuck up the dopamine systems of young men and make an already badly addicted generation hopelessly dependent on this shit

LewisVerstappen 4y ago
We lost that battle a decade ago
stavros 4y ago
Better than Instagram, at least.
- collegeburner 4y ago
  no, its gonna have people combining dark pattern skinner box shit from insta and tiktok with the addictive nature of porn. and its gonna be way worse. yall wouldn't believe me if i told you how common straight up porn addiction is in young kids, it's fucking bad already. edit: @stickfigure i'm can y'all please quit trying to tar me with this brush, it's bullshit. i'm not arguing about masturbation i'm saying excessive consumption of porn when people have limitless access to weird ass shit that doesn't reflect the real world is causing problems. don't try to make me some puritan or whatever because literally nothing i said suggests that.
  - stickfigure 4y ago
deleted 4y ago
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tagami 4y ago
/snark Welcome to the metaverse
superkuh 4y ago
Porn "addiction" and all that hand wringing is just FUD from the moral panic types and the skeezy media "doctors" that prey on them. In fact non-substance "addictions" aren't recognized at all. "Gambling disorder" is presently the only condition in the subsection of "Non-substance-related disorders" in DSM 5. Addiction mediated by chemicals that directly increase perceptions of incentive salience through mesolimbic dopaminergic activation are real addictions. Perceptions of sensory stimuli come in through the normal paths do not directly hijack any part of the brain like addictive chemicals do. Downstream of the stimuli there may be reward learning but it's through normal channels, not directly turning up incentive salience. You actually have to like/enjoy something first before reward learning happens.

moomoo11 4y ago

That would be a cause for the models on TikTok to unionize because that’s taking their jobs away.

XorNot 4y ago
There's a business model in there though: the algorithms need well tagged poses and images, and one of the biggest issues with sex work is that it is used to attack people in other areas of their lives (even in a perfect society for this, the desire not to be directly personally associated as a part of your identity would probably still exist). If you can retain paying customers, and then pay performers for a supply of source material (which won't, unaltered, ever end up in customer hands) then there's a new business model somewhere in there.
kbenson 4y ago
The really smart models will put together an AI to generate images of them using only their own images as training data, and then they can sit back and profit. Eventually we'll be watching generated personalities on twitch playing video games, and then we'll know the end is nigh. There is no infinity, eventually the snake chokes on its own tail...
- Barrin92 4y ago
  >Eventually we'll be watching generated personalities on twitch playing video games that won't happen because the entire value proposition is in the personal connection to the streamer. (the modern derogatory term is 'parasocial relationship'). just like nobody watches chess computers or starcraft bots play nobody is going to watch bots play games. in fact to stay on the topic of the thread, people are making millions on onlyfans because they realized chatting with their viewers is much more valuable than generic pornography.
  - Ancapistani 4y ago
    > the entire value proposition is in the personal connection to the streamer Right - that’s where the money is made. The people that pay them have to be found in the broader market, though, and that’s where this sort of thing would shine. A streamer could pump out a stupid amount of content with this, always fresh and new, with little or no ongoing time commitment. That in turn would free up their time to provide personalized content to paying customers.

throwawaysleep 4y ago

I would happily pay $100 a month for that.

EddySchauHai 4y ago

If people wanted to work on this, I genuinely believe that could be huge.

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6510 4y ago

For the general public you mean. I'm sure Bezos already has a feed of "urinate in pants". Why the downvote? At 15 $/h his 162.7 billion could buy 1.24 million years worth of bathroom breaks. You want to argue other motivations are at play here?

markdown 4y ago
So, just a feed of Liam Neeson? https://cheezburger.com/13330949/liam-neesons-unapologetic-pants-pissing-a-thread https://cheezburger.com/13330949/liam-neesons-unapologetic-p...

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