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The algorythms are not public, and as the public square of present, Twitter essentially drives public discourse... especially when a large portion of the legacy

The algorythms are not public, and as the public square of present, Twitter essentially drives public discourse... especially when a large portion of the legacy media has been reduced to sourcing their stories and directly quoting from Twitter. Secondly, private messages between people are not public either. Opening that data up or allowing it to be read or manipulated by other entities will drive a lot of outrage and the data contained within is important!

guiambros 4y ago
+1. Additionally IP addresses, email and phone numbers can be extremely sensitive if leaked, so security is absolutely paramount. Case in point: imagine the risk to activists or journalists in heavily censored countries.
- Maursault 4y ago
  Please name one time in the history of TCP/IP that leaked IP addresses led to anything at all.
  - InvaderFizz 4y ago
    Certainly lead to myself and other shitheads in my youth DoS'ing each other's dialup connections on IRC to settle arguments.
  - jimmydorry 4y ago
    Sure, when popular social media influencers have their IP leaked they get DDoS'ed and are not able to earn a living until they get a new IP. For some ISPs this requires them to lodge a support ticket. When gaming services leak IPs, they too can get DDoS'ed. E.g. during tournaments or when someone is losing their match.
Maursault 4y ago
>The algorythms are not public, Seriously, so what? Twitter's IP does not affect national security. >and as the public square of present, Twitter essentially drives public discourse... This is being awfully kind to a platform that 77% of Americans have absolutely nothing to do with. >especially when a large portion of the legacy media has been reduced to sourcing their stories and directly quoting from Twitter. Ah, legacy media, conservative politispeak for CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, etc. Can't get away from Twitter on the major networks anymore, it's Twitter all the time? Just what in the heck are you talking about? Turn the news on sometime. The only reason for Twitter to be in the news is Elon Musk (previously, Trump). Or, you know, give one example of a major news outlet using Twitter as source for a story. Real journalists do not do that. They use legitimate sources. > Secondly, private messages between people are not public either. Opening that data up or allowing it to be read or manipulated by other entities will drive a lot of outrage and the data contained within is important! Absurd. No one cares what you say in private to a complete stranger you'll never meet.
- jimmydorry 4y ago
  >Twitter's IP does not affect national security Governments and their respective departments (at all levels: federal, state, local, etc.) communicate with their constituents via social media, Twitter in particular as well as via the media outlets that will report on said statements from Twitter. Change the algorythm such that those messages no longer reach people and you can bet the respective countries will pass legislation and puninitive measures against Twitter. >This is being awfully kind to a platform that 77% of Americans have absolutely nothing to do with Except I outlined some of the other ways people interact with Twitter, even without accounts. You seem to be incredulous that other forms of media rely on Twitter... You should look a bit closer next time you turn the TV on. I just did and there was a segment about Russia playing titled "'Slower burn' of Russia's economy has begun". Guess where almost all of the footage they aired came from? Twitter. Guess how the reporters are finding people on the ground to interview? Twitter. Guess how analysts are keeping abreast of military developments (e.g. troop movement, statements released by governments, etc.)? Twitter. >Absurd. No one cares what you say in private to a complete stranger you'll never meet. Many service providers conduct customer service via DMs these days. My ISP's preffered lines of contact are Twitter and WhatsApp. Even if we take a step back, do you truly believe that there are no people sharing sensitive information between each other via private messages?

guiambros 4y ago

+1. Additionally IP addresses, email and phone numbers can be extremely sensitive if leaked, so security is absolutely paramount. Case in point: imagine the risk to activists or journalists in heavily censored countries.

Maursault 4y ago
Please name one time in the history of TCP/IP that leaked IP addresses led to anything at all.
- InvaderFizz 4y ago
  Certainly lead to myself and other shitheads in my youth DoS'ing each other's dialup connections on IRC to settle arguments.
- jimmydorry 4y ago
  Sure, when popular social media influencers have their IP leaked they get DDoS'ed and are not able to earn a living until they get a new IP. For some ISPs this requires them to lodge a support ticket. When gaming services leak IPs, they too can get DDoS'ed. E.g. during tournaments or when someone is losing their match.

Maursault 4y ago

>The algorythms are not public, Seriously, so what? Twitter's IP does not affect national security. >and as the public square of present, Twitter essentially drives public discourse... This is being awfully kind to a platform that 77% of Americans have absolutely nothing to do with. >especially when a large portion of the legacy media has been reduced to sourcing their stories and directly quoting from Twitter. Ah, legacy media, conservative politispeak for CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, etc. Can't get away from Twitter on the major networks anymore, it's Twitter all the time? Just what in the heck are you talking about? Turn the news on sometime. The only reason for Twitter to be in the news is Elon Musk (previously, Trump). Or, you know, give one example of a major news outlet using Twitter as source for a story. Real journalists do not do that. They use legitimate sources. > Secondly, private messages between people are not public either. Opening that data up or allowing it to be read or manipulated by other entities will drive a lot of outrage and the data contained within is important! Absurd. No one cares what you say in private to a complete stranger you'll never meet.

jimmydorry 4y ago
>Twitter's IP does not affect national security Governments and their respective departments (at all levels: federal, state, local, etc.) communicate with their constituents via social media, Twitter in particular as well as via the media outlets that will report on said statements from Twitter. Change the algorythm such that those messages no longer reach people and you can bet the respective countries will pass legislation and puninitive measures against Twitter. >This is being awfully kind to a platform that 77% of Americans have absolutely nothing to do with Except I outlined some of the other ways people interact with Twitter, even without accounts. You seem to be incredulous that other forms of media rely on Twitter... You should look a bit closer next time you turn the TV on. I just did and there was a segment about Russia playing titled "'Slower burn' of Russia's economy has begun". Guess where almost all of the footage they aired came from? Twitter. Guess how the reporters are finding people on the ground to interview? Twitter. Guess how analysts are keeping abreast of military developments (e.g. troop movement, statements released by governments, etc.)? Twitter. >Absurd. No one cares what you say in private to a complete stranger you'll never meet. Many service providers conduct customer service via DMs these days. My ISP's preffered lines of contact are Twitter and WhatsApp. Even if we take a step back, do you truly believe that there are no people sharing sensitive information between each other via private messages?