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Have they really gone back to the pentium 4 strategy or are they behind in process node tech and can only compete with AMD’s performance by pumping power into t

Have they really gone back to the pentium 4 strategy or are they behind in process node tech and can only compete with AMD’s performance by pumping power into their cpus? I think Intel’s top priority right now is to catch up to Tsmc’s node tech to have as close to performance per watt (or beyond) parity as they can against AMD (and Apple)

GeekyBear 4y ago
>Raptor Lake to Offer ‘Unlimited Power’ Mode for Those Who Don’t Care About Heat, Electric Bills https://www.extremetech.com/computing/338748-raptor-lake-to-offer-unlimited-power-setting https://www.extremetech.com/computing/338748-raptor-lake-to-... If that isn't a return to the Pentium 4 strategy, I don't know what is.
- 7speter 4y ago
  Stop feeding into hyperbole. The 13900k is for maybe 5% of the market, and the non k will give crazy enough performance for most buyers (if they even exist at this point). Giving the 13900 a high heat mode is just for the chance to keep up/beat AMD for bragging rights. Intel isn’t relying on an architecture thats about to run them into a wall like the Pentium 4’s architecture was about to, what keeping them is second is being behind on their process, and beyond that, execution.
  - GeekyBear 4y ago
    Sorry, but Intel is pretty obviously chasing performance via higher and higher clock speeds and ridiculously high power draws just like they did previously with their Pentium 4 strategy. You can argue that it's not what they "want" to be doing, but it's certainly what they are doing.
    - 7speter 4y ago
      I'm obviously not going to change your mind so you do you
      - GeekyBear 4y ago
        >Intel Raptor Lake boosts performance, but the [power] requirements are staggering https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-raptor-lake-may-hit-350-watts/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-raptor-lake-ma... What you can't change is the reality of Intel's actions.

GeekyBear 4y ago

>Raptor Lake to Offer ‘Unlimited Power’ Mode for Those Who Don’t Care About Heat, Electric Bills https://www.extremetech.com/computing/338748-raptor-lake-to-offer-unlimited-power-setting https://www.extremetech.com/computing/338748-raptor-lake-to-... If that isn't a return to the Pentium 4 strategy, I don't know what is.

7speter 4y ago
Stop feeding into hyperbole. The 13900k is for maybe 5% of the market, and the non k will give crazy enough performance for most buyers (if they even exist at this point). Giving the 13900 a high heat mode is just for the chance to keep up/beat AMD for bragging rights. Intel isn’t relying on an architecture thats about to run them into a wall like the Pentium 4’s architecture was about to, what keeping them is second is being behind on their process, and beyond that, execution.
- GeekyBear 4y ago
  Sorry, but Intel is pretty obviously chasing performance via higher and higher clock speeds and ridiculously high power draws just like they did previously with their Pentium 4 strategy. You can argue that it's not what they "want" to be doing, but it's certainly what they are doing.
  - 7speter 4y ago
    I'm obviously not going to change your mind so you do you
    - GeekyBear 4y ago
      >Intel Raptor Lake boosts performance, but the [power] requirements are staggering https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-raptor-lake-may-hit-350-watts/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-raptor-lake-ma... What you can't change is the reality of Intel's actions.