https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-7-jordan-mechner/id735180050?i=1000441628041 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-7-jordan-mechn... John

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-7-jordan-mechner/id735180050?i=1000441628041 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-7-jordan-mechn... John Romero did an interview with Jordan that goes into early Apple 2 days. It is a good complementary listen to this PDF.