4 ms·

"When I go shopping, or even to my doctor now, I leave my phone in my car." I don't blame you, I go one step further, I use a rooted deGoogled phone with locat

"When I go shopping, or even to my doctor now, I leave my phone in my car." I don't blame you, I go one step further, I use a rooted deGoogled phone with location defaulted to off and all apps with few exceptions such as browsers are specifically denied access to the internet. Even then I use multiple browsers for different jobs/sites with JavaScript defaulted to off. Oh, and I nearly forgot to mention the phone's VPN-type firewall. When I go shopping I mostly use cash even for large purchases say up to $1k or so (I'll actively go to an auto teller and withdraw cash first rather than use my cards). I keep online purchases to an absolute minimum and when I do I make them with 'corporate' type cards. I don't see this as paranoia, rather it's common sense. Anyone, who runs a logcat log-displaying program on a rooted smartphone without additional privacy protection steps being taken is astounded - in fact horrified - at the amount information that's being stolen from one. The log entries flash past in their thousands much faster than it's possible for anyone to ever read them. I've little to hide and my lifestyle is really pretty boring and ordinary but I'm absolutely affronted how this situation developed without proper laws being in place or enacted (not long ago the privacy of telephone circuits was considered sacrosanct and laws rigorously protected us from being monitored). In the grand scheme of things I recognize that my efforts are pretty futile but at least I gain some satisfaction in trying to combat the bastards. I don't quite understand why the general attitude of the population to maintaining one's privacy has considerably lessened in recent decades, and similarly why existing privacy laws are not being upheld as they once were.

Xeoncross 4y ago
It hasn't hit yet. The CCP hasn't come arrest me for speaking against a government official and the Saudi government hasn't arrested me for dancing and the Australian government hasn't arrested me for participating in a protest, etc... One day soon all Americans will start facing consequences for even benign actions and then they will care.
- hilbert42 4y ago
  Absolutely, like the frog in heating water, we'll realize the fact when it's too late.
  - namaria 4y ago
    I get the metaphor, but this is a myth. A frog, like you, will absolutely jump out of the water as soon as the temperature gets uncomfortable, let alone lethal.
    - hilbert42 4y ago
      I know, donkey's years ago a teacher demonstrated the fact in the school's science lab much to the horror and chagrin of some students and to the gruesome delight of others. Within a few seconds the frog jumped out completly unharmed. No doubt today such experiments would be completely banned not to mention that anyone who dared tried it would experience the full wrath of Peta brought down upon him/her.
- monksy 4y ago
  Well you aren't yet until you hit land there. Or the National Security Law is enforced in an extraditial manner as it's written. (Also, don't forget the US has extratraditial laws with punishment involving crimes of abuse and crimes of having unreported money in other countries [i.e. being american and working for a company+living in say the UK])
upupandup 4y ago
> rooted deGoogled phone with location defaulted to off and all apps asking for a friend, she wants to know how to do this, she is very privacy conscious. > I nearly forgot to mention the phone's VPN-type firewall. also she wonders what vpn service you use here > logcat log-displaying program on a rooted smartphone without additional privacy protection steps being taken is astounded and one last thing she wants to know is how would you do this for a windows 10 laptop? can you hook it up to some raspberry pi device that can monitor outgoing and incoming packets? I suspect its rooted but people keep telling her how its impossible to trojan windows 10. > one's privacy has considerably lessened in recent decades, just to add my piece, people have been collectively brainwashed to place lot of value to essentially phantom points, be it instagram likes, followers on twitter, retweets and crypto. they are willing to go above and beyond to do the surveillance voluntarily. I watched a piece on instagram thieves who chuckled how easy their victims make their job for them by showing off what they've got and when they are away from home. I imagine this is the same for people who believe they are building a startup legally. Remember the quote from the biggest social media creator: "They trust me dumb **s"
- zen_1 4y ago
  > degoogled phone GrapheneOS on any pixel phone is my goto. It's way easier to install a custom ROM now than back in the day, anyone can do it if they can follow instructions (and reseat their phone cable if the process stalls after a phone reboot) some banking apps don't work but apart from that it's 100% functional > vpn Mullvad (Sweden based) and Proton (Switzerland based) are two VPNs with a good reputation imo.
  - hilbert42 4y ago
    I'm sorry if I didn't explain the firewall VPN stuff well. Android lets one set up VPNs so firewalls exploit the concept to divert traffic from apps to a nul-VPN, apps think they've access to the internet but their traffic doesn't go anywhere. This satisfies apps that demand such access, they'll still work on the premise that they have internet access, it's just that it's down all the time. One such firewall app is Karma FW, it's available on Google's app store - and if you think you'd be violating your privacy even further by going there then use the Aurora Store app to spoof the download. As it violates Google's terms of service you have to get it from F-Droid's repository.

Xeoncross 4y ago

It hasn't hit yet. The CCP hasn't come arrest me for speaking against a government official and the Saudi government hasn't arrested me for dancing and the Australian government hasn't arrested me for participating in a protest, etc... One day soon all Americans will start facing consequences for even benign actions and then they will care.

hilbert42 4y ago
Absolutely, like the frog in heating water, we'll realize the fact when it's too late.
- namaria 4y ago
  I get the metaphor, but this is a myth. A frog, like you, will absolutely jump out of the water as soon as the temperature gets uncomfortable, let alone lethal.
  - hilbert42 4y ago
    I know, donkey's years ago a teacher demonstrated the fact in the school's science lab much to the horror and chagrin of some students and to the gruesome delight of others. Within a few seconds the frog jumped out completly unharmed. No doubt today such experiments would be completely banned not to mention that anyone who dared tried it would experience the full wrath of Peta brought down upon him/her.
monksy 4y ago
Well you aren't yet until you hit land there. Or the National Security Law is enforced in an extraditial manner as it's written. (Also, don't forget the US has extratraditial laws with punishment involving crimes of abuse and crimes of having unreported money in other countries [i.e. being american and working for a company+living in say the UK])

upupandup 4y ago

> rooted deGoogled phone with location defaulted to off and all apps asking for a friend, she wants to know how to do this, she is very privacy conscious. > I nearly forgot to mention the phone's VPN-type firewall. also she wonders what vpn service you use here > logcat log-displaying program on a rooted smartphone without additional privacy protection steps being taken is astounded and one last thing she wants to know is how would you do this for a windows 10 laptop? can you hook it up to some raspberry pi device that can monitor outgoing and incoming packets? I suspect its rooted but people keep telling her how its impossible to trojan windows 10. > one's privacy has considerably lessened in recent decades, just to add my piece, people have been collectively brainwashed to place lot of value to essentially phantom points, be it instagram likes, followers on twitter, retweets and crypto. they are willing to go above and beyond to do the surveillance voluntarily. I watched a piece on instagram thieves who chuckled how easy their victims make their job for them by showing off what they've got and when they are away from home. I imagine this is the same for people who believe they are building a startup legally. Remember the quote from the biggest social media creator: "They trust me dumb **s"

zen_1 4y ago
> degoogled phone GrapheneOS on any pixel phone is my goto. It's way easier to install a custom ROM now than back in the day, anyone can do it if they can follow instructions (and reseat their phone cable if the process stalls after a phone reboot) some banking apps don't work but apart from that it's 100% functional > vpn Mullvad (Sweden based) and Proton (Switzerland based) are two VPNs with a good reputation imo.
- hilbert42 4y ago
  I'm sorry if I didn't explain the firewall VPN stuff well. Android lets one set up VPNs so firewalls exploit the concept to divert traffic from apps to a nul-VPN, apps think they've access to the internet but their traffic doesn't go anywhere. This satisfies apps that demand such access, they'll still work on the premise that they have internet access, it's just that it's down all the time. One such firewall app is Karma FW, it's available on Google's app store - and if you think you'd be violating your privacy even further by going there then use the Aurora Store app to spoof the download. As it violates Google's terms of service you have to get it from F-Droid's repository.