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I think there are several countries, across North and Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, perhaps Singapore and Hong Kong, that could compete with t
by ALittleLight 4y ago
I think there are several countries, across North and Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, perhaps Singapore and Hong Kong, that could compete with the US for "standard of living". These countries don't have similar immigration policies or histories compared to the US.
If you think of a person who builds a unicorn as a national level resource, which makes sense because they create jobs, capabilities, and wealth, then you seem to be saying that it is good for the US to drain the national resources of other, poorer countries. Why isn't a good thing for Indian entrepreneurs to create Indian unicorns in India?
- petilon 4y agoAustralia takes in twice as many immigrants per year, compared to the US, as a percentage of their population. Canada almost 4 times as many. Singapore, New Zealand and Hong Kong too take in more immigrants than the US.
- ALittleLight 4y agoCanada and Australia both use a points based immigration system. Both countries are isolated from land borders that can be easily crossed. Contrast this with the non-points based immigration system in the US and tens of millions of immigrants from South and Central America. As I wrote - different immigration systems.
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- midoridensha 4y ago>Singapore, New Zealand and Hong Kong too take in more immigrants than the US. Is this still true for Hong Kong after the recent Chinese crackdown? The stuff I've read says HK lost a significant number of people who fled after that.
- FredPret 4y agoI'm an engineer that moved to Canada. Let me tell you, I am here because they made it easy (or at least do-able) to come, and the people made it extremely pleasant to stay. In America, you also get the mostly immigrant-friendly culture, but it's orders of magnitude harder and more involved to get there. So it's not even on my radar.
- ALittleLight 4y agoCanada's immigration system favors engineers and skilled professionals. As the comment I was replying to put it this is a way for rich countries, like Canada, to drain the resources of poorer countries. This process benefits you, because you prefer to live in Canada compared to your home country, and it benefits Canada, because they get more professionals, but it hurts your home country who loses professionals.
- FredPret 4y agoWhat do Canada, and I, owe my home country? Arguing I should stay there because I was born there is not even just nativism, it implies countries own their citizens as property. This idea would set the whole world back. If they wanted me to stay, they could have tried harder to create a nice environment for smart people there.
- ALittleLight 4y agoThis is simply an improved version of colonization - rich countries extracting resources from the poor. Only now, the rich countries don't have to bother with the maintenance of the poor countries - they just drain the valuable citizens and leave the rest. As to what you, or Canada, owe your home country - this is a nonsense question. Either there are moral obligations between people or there aren't. If there are, then the rich taking from the poor (Canada importing professionals) or the relatively well off abandoning their poor countrymen (professionals departing their homeland for better lives in rich countries) are likely failing those moral obligations. If there are no moral obligations you owe nothing but neither is anyone else obliged to not point out the resource extraction.
- pyb 4y agoAll of the countries you cited have a lot of immigrants.