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Whether it's any healthier doesn't really matter to me. I'm excited to be able to enjoy bacon without paying for the inefficiency of raising animals.

c16 4y ago
Sadly fake meat is just as expensive if not more expensive than meat.
- oblak 4y ago
  All fake meat products that I can find here in Bulgaria are considerably more expensive than meat. I an not saying impossible burger is more expensive than kobe stakes, though. It's mostly speculation, imho, as people are willing to spend more on these products. Some of these things are just as bad, if not worse, than cheap real meat. Back in the before going full veggies, I've tasted some horrible things that should be illegal. I am baffled people are willing to eat factory chicken, pork, etc. Shit is disgusting even if you don't care about the horrible lives of all the animals
- pvaldes 4y ago
  Fortunately, in fact. This protects the rights of the majority that want bacon and not fakesomething silently replacing their food overnight. If the product is not meat, shouldn't be tagged as meat.
_yoqn 4y ago
Fungus != meat
horsawlarway 4y ago
Don't really think that's going to happen. Pork is one of the cheapest meats you can raise. Just the spore costs to produce a lb of mushrooms can rival the total cost to raise a lb of pork (commercial pork can be as cheap as $64/CWT carcass weight - so $0.64/lb. Mushroom spore can be as high as $1.00 in spore costs to generate 1lb of mushroom). Processing the meat will raise costs, but it's hardly like mushrooms have low care/processing costs (If you don't know, they often require clean room levels of care to ensure proper spores without contamination). There's a reason white mushrooms (unsliced) goes for $4.49/lb at my local Kroger, and the boneless pork goes for $1.99/lb. I don't see this ever being cheaper.
- sibane 4y ago
  What do you mean by spore costs? Wouldn't most large scale farming operations work with liquid cultures based on live mycelium? Liquid cultures are easy to multiply and inject into pasteurized substrate with needles. Once the mycelium has taken over the growing medium, it also no longer needs to be kept in a fully sterile environment. I'm not at all convinced a pound of mushrooms is worth that much more than pork. Are you sure it's not the meat industry subsidies that are keeping the price down?
  - VLM 4y ago
    There don't seem to be subsidies for Pork. There was a "Small Hog Operation Payment" last century that paid $10 per hog for the first 500 hogs sold by a farm, according to wikipedia, but they got rid of that a long time ago. That is well under 10% the sale price of a hog. The problem mushrooms have is scale, much like spices. We can grow 20K acres of mechanized corn, but mushrooms are a little less mechanized. So its to be expected for mushrooms to cost as much as basil or cilantro per pound.
- binbashthefash 4y ago
  It's the exact opposite where I'm at in the EU. I picked up 400 grams of king oysters from the market for 2 euros yesterday.

c16 4y ago

Sadly fake meat is just as expensive if not more expensive than meat.

oblak 4y ago
All fake meat products that I can find here in Bulgaria are considerably more expensive than meat. I an not saying impossible burger is more expensive than kobe stakes, though. It's mostly speculation, imho, as people are willing to spend more on these products. Some of these things are just as bad, if not worse, than cheap real meat. Back in the before going full veggies, I've tasted some horrible things that should be illegal. I am baffled people are willing to eat factory chicken, pork, etc. Shit is disgusting even if you don't care about the horrible lives of all the animals
pvaldes 4y ago
Fortunately, in fact. This protects the rights of the majority that want bacon and not fakesomething silently replacing their food overnight. If the product is not meat, shouldn't be tagged as meat.

_yoqn 4y ago

Fungus != meat

horsawlarway 4y ago

Don't really think that's going to happen. Pork is one of the cheapest meats you can raise. Just the spore costs to produce a lb of mushrooms can rival the total cost to raise a lb of pork (commercial pork can be as cheap as $64/CWT carcass weight - so $0.64/lb. Mushroom spore can be as high as $1.00 in spore costs to generate 1lb of mushroom). Processing the meat will raise costs, but it's hardly like mushrooms have low care/processing costs (If you don't know, they often require clean room levels of care to ensure proper spores without contamination). There's a reason white mushrooms (unsliced) goes for $4.49/lb at my local Kroger, and the boneless pork goes for $1.99/lb. I don't see this ever being cheaper.

sibane 4y ago
What do you mean by spore costs? Wouldn't most large scale farming operations work with liquid cultures based on live mycelium? Liquid cultures are easy to multiply and inject into pasteurized substrate with needles. Once the mycelium has taken over the growing medium, it also no longer needs to be kept in a fully sterile environment. I'm not at all convinced a pound of mushrooms is worth that much more than pork. Are you sure it's not the meat industry subsidies that are keeping the price down?
- VLM 4y ago
  There don't seem to be subsidies for Pork. There was a "Small Hog Operation Payment" last century that paid $10 per hog for the first 500 hogs sold by a farm, according to wikipedia, but they got rid of that a long time ago. That is well under 10% the sale price of a hog. The problem mushrooms have is scale, much like spices. We can grow 20K acres of mechanized corn, but mushrooms are a little less mechanized. So its to be expected for mushrooms to cost as much as basil or cilantro per pound.
binbashthefash 4y ago
It's the exact opposite where I'm at in the EU. I picked up 400 grams of king oysters from the market for 2 euros yesterday.