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What makes GMOs problematic?

by adamgordonbell 4y ago

soperj 4y ago
They're mostly modified so that they can handle herbicides.
- adamgordonbell 4y ago
  I'm not sure why something handling herbicides makes it problematic for eating? Is it because it will then have more herbicides on it or because you feel the incentives behind GMO are off or is their some more immediate problem?
  - soperj 4y ago
    It's more than just food for eating. For instance, in BC they plant GMO round up ready pine, and then spray clear cuts and forest fire areas with round up, so that they can plant mono-culture pine stands. This has caused massive forest fire issues which also results flooding issues, along with biodiversity issues.
    - asdff 4y ago
      Seems like they would have done that anyhow without the GMO pine...
- algoatecorn 4y ago
  But that's only because the originators of the first GMO seeds had to be firms with plenty of capital and R&D capacity ie. chemical companies. They also had the double revenue stream of seeds + herbicide. Herbicide resistance is also the most attractive seed trait in terms of farmer adoption. Now, the cost of generating GMO seeds is much lower. We have more firms creating GMO with traits beyond herbicide resistance. These genotypes will have value for processors, retailers, and consumers. Be careful to not tarnish the reputation of GMO seeds before we realize their true potential.
zackmorris 4y ago
Several things, mainly that they introduce genes which create compounds our bodies have never eaten, which increases the likelihood of developing food sensitivities and autoimmune disorders. But the big thing is that they use glyphosate to dry crops like wheat and oats before harvest, which increases the odds of eating a high dose of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_desiccation#Systemic_desiccants_(glyphosate) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_desiccation#Systemic_desi... Basically what's going on is that as they play with crops to make them more resistant to pests, the husks become more and more toxic to humans and at the very least our gut flora. Which is why I believe that the increased quantity of whole wheat and oatmeal I ate for my weight training over a 20 year period damaged my digestive system. Now there were other causes grant you, like I'm no teetotaler, but the way in which my body started collapsing in 2018 opened my eyes to how things go wrong fast once the immune system is triggered.

What makes GMOs problematic?

soperj 4y ago

They're mostly modified so that they can handle herbicides.

adamgordonbell 4y ago
I'm not sure why something handling herbicides makes it problematic for eating? Is it because it will then have more herbicides on it or because you feel the incentives behind GMO are off or is their some more immediate problem?
- soperj 4y ago
  It's more than just food for eating. For instance, in BC they plant GMO round up ready pine, and then spray clear cuts and forest fire areas with round up, so that they can plant mono-culture pine stands. This has caused massive forest fire issues which also results flooding issues, along with biodiversity issues.
  - asdff 4y ago
    Seems like they would have done that anyhow without the GMO pine...
algoatecorn 4y ago
But that's only because the originators of the first GMO seeds had to be firms with plenty of capital and R&D capacity ie. chemical companies. They also had the double revenue stream of seeds + herbicide. Herbicide resistance is also the most attractive seed trait in terms of farmer adoption. Now, the cost of generating GMO seeds is much lower. We have more firms creating GMO with traits beyond herbicide resistance. These genotypes will have value for processors, retailers, and consumers. Be careful to not tarnish the reputation of GMO seeds before we realize their true potential.

zackmorris 4y ago

Several things, mainly that they introduce genes which create compounds our bodies have never eaten, which increases the likelihood of developing food sensitivities and autoimmune disorders. But the big thing is that they use glyphosate to dry crops like wheat and oats before harvest, which increases the odds of eating a high dose of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_desiccation#Systemic_desiccants_(glyphosate) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_desiccation#Systemic_desi... Basically what's going on is that as they play with crops to make them more resistant to pests, the husks become more and more toxic to humans and at the very least our gut flora. Which is why I believe that the increased quantity of whole wheat and oatmeal I ate for my weight training over a 20 year period damaged my digestive system. Now there were other causes grant you, like I'm no teetotaler, but the way in which my body started collapsing in 2018 opened my eyes to how things go wrong fast once the immune system is triggered.