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> that those whose personalities differ are self-selecting for working in an office environment? Remote doesn't specify where you work, though. In my 20 years

> that those whose personalities differ are self-selecting for working in an office environment? Remote doesn't specify where you work, though. In my 20 years of working remotely, I've worked from home, from cars, hotels, cafes, offices, out in the middle of a field, you name it I've probably done it. 100% remote working conditions can mean working in an office environment every single day, if that's your preference. Remote is a euphemism for "work wherever you please". The actual differentiation here is whether or not an employer dictates a working location. Are you, perhaps, suggesting that there is strong overlap between those who prefer working in offices (which does no preclude 100% remote) and having a controlling power dictate how they live?

tomtheelder 4y ago
Working in an office without your coworkers is in no way a substitute for working in an office with them. What people are talking about when they say they prefer an office environment is face to face collaboration and socialization. You don't get that unless the people in the office with you are you coworkers.
- randomdata 4y ago
  The theory proposed earlier is that you will self-select to work with other workers who choose to work in offices, if that's your preference, so it can remain a 100% remote situation where the preferred remote location is the office. There is an implication as well, though, that there is an additional self-selection towards having dictation on how to live your life from a greater power among those who prefer working in offices, seeing those people self-select businesses that have mandated location requirements. That is what we are exploring here.
- SantalBlush 4y ago
  >Working in an office without your coworkers is in no way a substitute for working in an office with them. What people are talking about when they say they prefer an office environment is face to face collaboration and socialization. This, right here, explains the pushback against those who favor in-office work; it's not that they simply want to be in the office, but they want their colleagues to make the commute to join them in the office and chat with them. Conversely, remote workers do not place any such requirements on where their colleagues work. They aren't requiring that anyone else be in a specific location at a specific time, hence why it is better and more accommodating to others.
severino 4y ago
I think the problem is that people that misses working from an office don't miss the office itself, but the rest of their co-workers. So for them to be happy, they need the employer to mandate everybody back into the office. Otherwise, if they can go back to the office, but they find they're the only ones that actually want to work from the office, or maybe a couple of guys more, then it won't cut it.

tomtheelder 4y ago

Working in an office without your coworkers is in no way a substitute for working in an office with them. What people are talking about when they say they prefer an office environment is face to face collaboration and socialization. You don't get that unless the people in the office with you are you coworkers.

randomdata 4y ago
The theory proposed earlier is that you will self-select to work with other workers who choose to work in offices, if that's your preference, so it can remain a 100% remote situation where the preferred remote location is the office. There is an implication as well, though, that there is an additional self-selection towards having dictation on how to live your life from a greater power among those who prefer working in offices, seeing those people self-select businesses that have mandated location requirements. That is what we are exploring here.
SantalBlush 4y ago
>Working in an office without your coworkers is in no way a substitute for working in an office with them. What people are talking about when they say they prefer an office environment is face to face collaboration and socialization. This, right here, explains the pushback against those who favor in-office work; it's not that they simply want to be in the office, but they want their colleagues to make the commute to join them in the office and chat with them. Conversely, remote workers do not place any such requirements on where their colleagues work. They aren't requiring that anyone else be in a specific location at a specific time, hence why it is better and more accommodating to others.

severino 4y ago

I think the problem is that people that misses working from an office don't miss the office itself, but the rest of their co-workers. So for them to be happy, they need the employer to mandate everybody back into the office. Otherwise, if they can go back to the office, but they find they're the only ones that actually want to work from the office, or maybe a couple of guys more, then it won't cut it.