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1, I guess it's a standard x86 version of Windows, not some Windows for ARM port. But imagine how fast native Windows port for M2 would be?! 2. Is this only Wi

1, I guess it's a standard x86 version of Windows, not some Windows for ARM port. But imagine how fast native Windows port for M2 would be?! 2. Is this only Windows/graphics specific, or Parallels on M2 can also run Ubuntu x86 OS (not Asahi Linux) and code faster than the latest x86 laptops?

nicoburns 4y ago
It's almost certainly Windows for ARM, which is available from Microsoft as a Windows Insider Preview. Parallels will also be able to run non-asahi ubuntu, and it likely will be pretty fast, but again it will be the ARM version.
kkjjkgjjgg 4y ago
Actually I think you have to use the Arm version of Windows with Parallels. But it has been a while that I tried it, may remember incorrectly.
goosedragons 4y ago
It is the ARM version of Windows. Parallels on Apple Silicon can't run x86 OSs. Only ARM ones. Not sure if Geekbench has a Windows ARM port though.
barkingcat 4y ago
It's windows for arm. linux for arm, etc etc Parallels on Apple Silicon cannot run x86 OS's. If you want to run x86, you can use qemu which works fine.
- nivertech 4y ago
  thanks, for a moment I was disappointed that I just ordered a fully-loaded Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 10 since I need to run x86 Ubuntu > If you want to run x86, you can use qemu which works fine. Are there any benchmarks for x86 Ubuntu under QEMU on M1/M2? Will it be usable?
  - solardev 4y ago
    Those are great machines too! And what dreamy keyboards.
  - zx85wes 4y ago
    This is coming : "Running Intel Binaries in Linux VMs with Rosetta" https://developer.apple.com/documentation/virtualization/running_intel_binaries_in_linux_vms_with_rosetta https://developer.apple.com/documentation/virtualization/run... And Ubuntu for ARM is already available.
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  - grav 4y ago
    I can highly recommend Arch AMD64 under Parallels on M1. GPU acceleration, clipboard integration, stuff generally works
  - fsiefken 4y ago
    Hi rivertech, I have no benchmarks but tried Alpine x86, it's a tad slow. I haven't tried a GUI and figured it's not worth the penalty in speed and battery life. Why do you need x86 ubuntu instead of arm ubuntu?, is it because of running x86 windows programs under Wine? Box86 is perhaps a faster solution.
    - nivertech 4y ago
      > Why do you need x86 ubuntu instead of arm ubuntu? - I dislike macOS (when I had Intel MBA in the past it was collecting dust until I installed Ubuntu on it). - I don't want to have 2 sets of instructions how to do something (i.e. once on macOS on AppleSilicon and once on Ubuntu x86) - I want my local dev env to be as similar as possible to the deployment env. Not sure how Ubuntu for ARM with x86 JIT for user code is the answer, judging by your reply it might be slow also.
      - fsiefken 4y ago
        I understand, I'd try box86/64. Depending on what you develop, instructions between Ubuntu x86 shouldn't differ that much compared to Ubuntu arm64, which can run with near native speeds within MacOS arm64. I have a similar issue, I want to run the occasional windows 32-bit programs on MacOS arm64 which necessitates linux x86/x64 with wine. I'm not sure if I can run wine for x64 on macos arm64 directly, appearently codeweavers crossover can. Ideally I'd do that in a virtualized box I can backup and move around.
- cassianoleal 4y ago
  > If you want to run x86, you can use qemu which works fine. It works for sure. It has a very noticeable performance impact though.
solardev 4y ago
Parallels can't run x86 code on Apple Silicon. It runs ARM Windows, which includes Microsoft's own x86 emulator: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x86-emulation https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x86...
microtonal 4y ago
Parallels does not support x86_64 Windows on M1/2 Macs: https://kb.parallels.com/125343 https://kb.parallels.com/125343 You can install the Windows ARM insider builds and run x86_64 applications through the emulation in Windows.

nicoburns 4y ago

It's almost certainly Windows for ARM, which is available from Microsoft as a Windows Insider Preview. Parallels will also be able to run non-asahi ubuntu, and it likely will be pretty fast, but again it will be the ARM version.

kkjjkgjjgg 4y ago

Actually I think you have to use the Arm version of Windows with Parallels. But it has been a while that I tried it, may remember incorrectly.

goosedragons 4y ago

It is the ARM version of Windows. Parallels on Apple Silicon can't run x86 OSs. Only ARM ones. Not sure if Geekbench has a Windows ARM port though.

barkingcat 4y ago

It's windows for arm. linux for arm, etc etc Parallels on Apple Silicon cannot run x86 OS's. If you want to run x86, you can use qemu which works fine.

nivertech 4y ago
thanks, for a moment I was disappointed that I just ordered a fully-loaded Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 10 since I need to run x86 Ubuntu > If you want to run x86, you can use qemu which works fine. Are there any benchmarks for x86 Ubuntu under QEMU on M1/M2? Will it be usable?
- solardev 4y ago
  Those are great machines too! And what dreamy keyboards.
- zx85wes 4y ago
  This is coming : "Running Intel Binaries in Linux VMs with Rosetta" https://developer.apple.com/documentation/virtualization/running_intel_binaries_in_linux_vms_with_rosetta https://developer.apple.com/documentation/virtualization/run... And Ubuntu for ARM is already available.
- deleted 4y ago
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- grav 4y ago
  I can highly recommend Arch AMD64 under Parallels on M1. GPU acceleration, clipboard integration, stuff generally works
- fsiefken 4y ago
  Hi rivertech, I have no benchmarks but tried Alpine x86, it's a tad slow. I haven't tried a GUI and figured it's not worth the penalty in speed and battery life. Why do you need x86 ubuntu instead of arm ubuntu?, is it because of running x86 windows programs under Wine? Box86 is perhaps a faster solution.
  - nivertech 4y ago
    > Why do you need x86 ubuntu instead of arm ubuntu? - I dislike macOS (when I had Intel MBA in the past it was collecting dust until I installed Ubuntu on it). - I don't want to have 2 sets of instructions how to do something (i.e. once on macOS on AppleSilicon and once on Ubuntu x86) - I want my local dev env to be as similar as possible to the deployment env. Not sure how Ubuntu for ARM with x86 JIT for user code is the answer, judging by your reply it might be slow also.
    - fsiefken 4y ago
      I understand, I'd try box86/64. Depending on what you develop, instructions between Ubuntu x86 shouldn't differ that much compared to Ubuntu arm64, which can run with near native speeds within MacOS arm64. I have a similar issue, I want to run the occasional windows 32-bit programs on MacOS arm64 which necessitates linux x86/x64 with wine. I'm not sure if I can run wine for x64 on macos arm64 directly, appearently codeweavers crossover can. Ideally I'd do that in a virtualized box I can backup and move around.
cassianoleal 4y ago
> If you want to run x86, you can use qemu which works fine. It works for sure. It has a very noticeable performance impact though.

solardev 4y ago

Parallels can't run x86 code on Apple Silicon. It runs ARM Windows, which includes Microsoft's own x86 emulator: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x86-emulation https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x86...

microtonal 4y ago

Parallels does not support x86_64 Windows on M1/2 Macs: https://kb.parallels.com/125343 https://kb.parallels.com/125343 You can install the Windows ARM insider builds and run x86_64 applications through the emulation in Windows.