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On that point Austrian privacy laws are insane. CCTV is a nightmare to set up there. https://edpb.europa.eu/news/national-news/2018/first-austrian-fine-cctv-co

On that point Austrian privacy laws are insane. CCTV is a nightmare to set up there. https://edpb.europa.eu/news/national-news/2018/first-austrian-fine-cctv-coverage-summary_en https://edpb.europa.eu/news/national-news/2018/first-austria...

flipbrad 4y ago
So is data loss prevention or other forms of workplace monitoring
estebank 4y ago
> The infringements refer to the following: the video surveillance system covers public streets as well as parking lots, both part of the public area in front of the entrance of the sports betting café. This is not adequate for the purposes of the processing and is not limited to a necessary extent. There are no logs of video surveillance processing operations. There is no deletion of the personal image data recorded by the video surveillance within 72 hours and no separate logs for processing in this regard and a justification for an extended storage period is missing (as determined in the Austrian Data Protection Act). In Addition to that, the filmed area does not have adequate signage about CCTV. Why are those laws insane?
- easytiger 4y ago
  You set up a camera to cover your front garden and if you happen to cover a portion of the street leading up to your property you are breaking the law. That's genuinely absurd. Keep in mind these apply to residential systems also. The rest of your quote is just as ridiculous. > There are no logs of video surveillance processing operations. It's a private system, why should there be. > There is no deletion of the personal image data recorded by the video surveillance within 72 hours Genuinely insane
  - em-bee 4y ago
    if you happen to cover a portion of the street leading up to your property you are breaking the law in germany too. why is that absurd? you can monitor your own property, but don't record me when i am walking along the street please.
    - easytiger 4y ago
      don't go to pretty much any other country on planet earth then
    - ars 4y ago
      Recording the street is the most important part of recording for crime detection. If someone knocks off the side mirror of my car by driving too close, I shouldn't be able to record that? I shouldn't be able to capture the license plate so I know who it is? You do get that you are publicly visible when walking down the street, right? People are visible in their gardens too, but I can at least understand making it illegal to record other private property, but the pubic street is reading it too far.
      - easytiger 4y ago
        Or go live in Africa where people case the street before they come to rob/murder you. It's a big deterrent to have CCTV covering property perimeter
        em-bee 4y ago
        it's a band-aid to a different, more serious problem. you both would have a point if the crime rate in germany or austria was higher due to not allowing surveillance in public spaces. but thankfully they have other deterrents to crime that allow everyone to have more privacy in public spaces.
        easytiger 4y ago
        > germany or austria was higher due to not allowing surveillance in public spaces. Have you seen how many stabbings have been happening in germany lately?

flipbrad 4y ago

So is data loss prevention or other forms of workplace monitoring

estebank 4y ago

> The infringements refer to the following: the video surveillance system covers public streets as well as parking lots, both part of the public area in front of the entrance of the sports betting café. This is not adequate for the purposes of the processing and is not limited to a necessary extent. There are no logs of video surveillance processing operations. There is no deletion of the personal image data recorded by the video surveillance within 72 hours and no separate logs for processing in this regard and a justification for an extended storage period is missing (as determined in the Austrian Data Protection Act). In Addition to that, the filmed area does not have adequate signage about CCTV. Why are those laws insane?

easytiger 4y ago
You set up a camera to cover your front garden and if you happen to cover a portion of the street leading up to your property you are breaking the law. That's genuinely absurd. Keep in mind these apply to residential systems also. The rest of your quote is just as ridiculous. > There are no logs of video surveillance processing operations. It's a private system, why should there be. > There is no deletion of the personal image data recorded by the video surveillance within 72 hours Genuinely insane
- em-bee 4y ago
  if you happen to cover a portion of the street leading up to your property you are breaking the law in germany too. why is that absurd? you can monitor your own property, but don't record me when i am walking along the street please.
  - easytiger 4y ago
    don't go to pretty much any other country on planet earth then
  - ars 4y ago
    Recording the street is the most important part of recording for crime detection. If someone knocks off the side mirror of my car by driving too close, I shouldn't be able to record that? I shouldn't be able to capture the license plate so I know who it is? You do get that you are publicly visible when walking down the street, right? People are visible in their gardens too, but I can at least understand making it illegal to record other private property, but the pubic street is reading it too far.
    - easytiger 4y ago
      Or go live in Africa where people case the street before they come to rob/murder you. It's a big deterrent to have CCTV covering property perimeter
      - em-bee 4y ago
        it's a band-aid to a different, more serious problem. you both would have a point if the crime rate in germany or austria was higher due to not allowing surveillance in public spaces. but thankfully they have other deterrents to crime that allow everyone to have more privacy in public spaces.
        easytiger 4y ago
        > germany or austria was higher due to not allowing surveillance in public spaces. Have you seen how many stabbings have been happening in germany lately?