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So we (Apple brand fans) must adopt a garbage standard (RCS) just because the brand you're a fan of (Google/Android) created and adopted it? RCS is crap and ne

So we (Apple brand fans) must adopt a garbage standard (RCS) just because the brand you're a fan of (Google/Android) created and adopted it? RCS is crap and needs to die. Apple and Google should work together on a better standard.

vidanay 4y ago
If Apple were really interested in a standard, they would be promoting iMessage as a standard. Instead, when Google proposes RCS, they just sit and shake their head and say "no, not good enough."
- jaywalk 4y ago
  That's a totally separate issue, and I generally agree with you. Apple should put in some work on this as well, and they have not. But that still doesn't mean RCS is good.
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throw0101a 4y ago
> RCS is crap and needs to die. Apple and Google should work together on a better standard. And in the meantime, I—an iPhone owner—should not be able to have group chats with my Android-using friends? "The perfect is the enemy of the good." RCS may not be perfect, but it seems to have nice things over and above SMS. I have no objections to adding more nice things to RCS (or whatever comes after it), but why shouldn't we implement the nice things of RCS?
- jaywalk 4y ago
  What's stopping you from having group chats with your Android-using friends? I have plenty of them on my iPhone.
  - woojoo666 4y ago
    I believe GP was talking about sms group chats. And if you have sms group chats with android users, it sucks for them, especially how reactions and replies show up on their side. iMessage group chats degrade the experience of your android friends for the convenience of iPhone users. It's not a great way to treat friends imo. 3rd party apps are the same amount of convenience for everybody.
- danaris 4y ago
  > And in the meantime, I—an iPhone owner—should not be able to have group chats with my Android-using friends? There are how many different cross-platform messaging apps?

vidanay 4y ago

If Apple were really interested in a standard, they would be promoting iMessage as a standard. Instead, when Google proposes RCS, they just sit and shake their head and say "no, not good enough."

jaywalk 4y ago
That's a totally separate issue, and I generally agree with you. Apple should put in some work on this as well, and they have not. But that still doesn't mean RCS is good.

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throw0101a 4y ago

> RCS is crap and needs to die. Apple and Google should work together on a better standard. And in the meantime, I—an iPhone owner—should not be able to have group chats with my Android-using friends? "The perfect is the enemy of the good." RCS may not be perfect, but it seems to have nice things over and above SMS. I have no objections to adding more nice things to RCS (or whatever comes after it), but why shouldn't we implement the nice things of RCS?

jaywalk 4y ago
What's stopping you from having group chats with your Android-using friends? I have plenty of them on my iPhone.
- woojoo666 4y ago
  I believe GP was talking about sms group chats. And if you have sms group chats with android users, it sucks for them, especially how reactions and replies show up on their side. iMessage group chats degrade the experience of your android friends for the convenience of iPhone users. It's not a great way to treat friends imo. 3rd party apps are the same amount of convenience for everybody.
danaris 4y ago
> And in the meantime, I—an iPhone owner—should not be able to have group chats with my Android-using friends? There are how many different cross-platform messaging apps?