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So the TL;DR is the EU Commission wants to implement surveillance in Chat applications to "protect and combat sexual abuse of minors", because nobody is against

So the TL;DR is the EU Commission wants to implement surveillance in Chat applications to "protect and combat sexual abuse of minors", because nobody is against "combating sexual abuse of minors", right? Probably later they extend that to "protect and combat right wing opinion", because nobody is against "combating the right wing opinion", or even "protect and combat the climate changes", because "Who are against it", right? Sounds like the a lot of "paranoid people" were just right, i guess?

rvz 4y ago
> EU Commission wants to implement surveillance in Chat applications to "protect and combat sexual abuse of minors", because nobody is against "combating sexual abuse of minors", right? > Sounds like the a lot of "paranoid people" were just right, i guess? Yes they were. The privacy activists are yet to realise that they have lost the battle decades ago. It is that dire that you have companies and governments pretending to care about privacy but it is always about mass surveillance in the end.
- pelasaco 4y ago
  In the flip side of the same coin, almost the same group demand a stronger presence of the police in the internet[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdm8SG8_v0I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdm8SG8_v0I
Joeri 4y ago
It’s sort of how blocking of websites was introduced in some of the countries of the EU to combat sexual abuse of minors (CIRCAMP), and then the infrastructure set up to do it was reused to block torrent sites, fake goods sites, phishing sites and a whole host of other web content deemed illegal. The slippery slope is real, and I have zero doubt this chat control system will be used to detect other illegal activities within the year. Private correspondence should be private until a judge orders it unsealed in a specific case. Blanket surveillance is worse than the crimes it purports to combat, and there are always better ways to combat those crimes.

rvz 4y ago

> EU Commission wants to implement surveillance in Chat applications to "protect and combat sexual abuse of minors", because nobody is against "combating sexual abuse of minors", right? > Sounds like the a lot of "paranoid people" were just right, i guess? Yes they were. The privacy activists are yet to realise that they have lost the battle decades ago. It is that dire that you have companies and governments pretending to care about privacy but it is always about mass surveillance in the end.

pelasaco 4y ago
In the flip side of the same coin, almost the same group demand a stronger presence of the police in the internet[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdm8SG8_v0I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdm8SG8_v0I

Joeri 4y ago

It’s sort of how blocking of websites was introduced in some of the countries of the EU to combat sexual abuse of minors (CIRCAMP), and then the infrastructure set up to do it was reused to block torrent sites, fake goods sites, phishing sites and a whole host of other web content deemed illegal. The slippery slope is real, and I have zero doubt this chat control system will be used to detect other illegal activities within the year. Private correspondence should be private until a judge orders it unsealed in a specific case. Blanket surveillance is worse than the crimes it purports to combat, and there are always better ways to combat those crimes.