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You can still wipe the disk and install just whatever OS you want, right? Dell doesn't force you to use the pre-installed OS? I don't understand the resale val

by bipson 4y ago

You can still wipe the disk and install just whatever OS you want, right? Dell doesn't force you to use the pre-installed OS? I don't understand the resale value either? You can always re-install windows? Do people pay more with the "original" Windows installation? Shouldn't you actually want to explicitly wipe before you sell??

francislavoie 4y ago
If you buy the Ubuntu version, then you don't have Windows on it at all. No license. Which is why the Ubuntu version is supposed to be slightly cheaper. But the general public, non-Linux users, will find it much less attractive if there's no Windows license, making its resale somewhat more difficult. And as I said, that is what I do; I bought the Windows version of the last-gen XPS 13 and installed Linux on it (dual boot).
- bipson 4y ago
  You should know that I have two XPS13 in my possession, both with Ubuntu pre-installed, so I know the economics of it. I was questioning your logic. Are you concerned with it's purchase price or it's resale value? You can't have both, can you? I don't understand why you use dual boot, if you only care for Linux? Or maybe you don't? Then why complain? The capacitive top row renders it a clear "management" option anyway, I don't understand the appeal of it for development. I think you don't have your priorities sorted out.
  - francislavoie 4y ago
    I'm just pointing out a potential trade-off. I don't care that much about resale, but the slightly reduced price up-front is nice. Re dual boot, because if I do have a Windows license, I rather not just throw it away. I don't mind losing like 50GB of my storage just to keep Windows around in case I need to sell the thing or send it back for warranty. Doesn't hurt to have sometimes to test something in a Windows browser or whatever, from time to time as well (yes, VMs are a thing but meh, overhead and jank).
neurostimulant 4y ago
> You can still wipe the disk and install just whatever OS you want, right? Then you basically give microsoft free money for windows license you don't use because the price includes windows license price.

by bipson 4y ago

francislavoie 4y ago

If you buy the Ubuntu version, then you don't have Windows on it at all. No license. Which is why the Ubuntu version is supposed to be slightly cheaper. But the general public, non-Linux users, will find it much less attractive if there's no Windows license, making its resale somewhat more difficult. And as I said, that is what I do; I bought the Windows version of the last-gen XPS 13 and installed Linux on it (dual boot).

bipson 4y ago
You should know that I have two XPS13 in my possession, both with Ubuntu pre-installed, so I know the economics of it. I was questioning your logic. Are you concerned with it's purchase price or it's resale value? You can't have both, can you? I don't understand why you use dual boot, if you only care for Linux? Or maybe you don't? Then why complain? The capacitive top row renders it a clear "management" option anyway, I don't understand the appeal of it for development. I think you don't have your priorities sorted out.
- francislavoie 4y ago
  I'm just pointing out a potential trade-off. I don't care that much about resale, but the slightly reduced price up-front is nice. Re dual boot, because if I do have a Windows license, I rather not just throw it away. I don't mind losing like 50GB of my storage just to keep Windows around in case I need to sell the thing or send it back for warranty. Doesn't hurt to have sometimes to test something in a Windows browser or whatever, from time to time as well (yes, VMs are a thing but meh, overhead and jank).

neurostimulant 4y ago

> You can still wipe the disk and install just whatever OS you want, right? Then you basically give microsoft free money for windows license you don't use because the price includes windows license price.