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In Canton Zürich (Switzerland) the parlament argued, everybody has a smartphone today anyway, so for public transport, from now on it legal, the only way to buy

In Canton Zürich (Switzerland) the parlament argued, everybody has a smartphone today anyway, so for public transport, from now on it legal, the only way to buy a ticket is an App. Do it without an Google account. But a postcard is a good example. Even the badest murder / raper in a prison will get a postcard.

jacquesm 4y ago
> the only way to buy a ticket is an App That's horrific.
- Xylakant 4y ago
  It also seems to be wrong, since the ZVV website explicitly mentions the app, the online ticket store and vending machines. [1] What seems to have happened though is that during the pandemic, the bus and tram personell that used to sell tickets as well stopped doing so to minimize contact. [2] This obviously is still a problem since not all stops have vending machines, so there’s the extra rule that you can buy your ticket at the next stop that has a vending machine. Inconvenient? Certainly. End of the anonymous travel? Certainly not. [1] https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/abos-und-tickets/tickets/einzelbillette-und-mehrfartenkarten.html https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/abos-und-tickets/tickets/einzelbil... [2] https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/allgemeine-seiten/medienmitteilungen/2020/coronavirus-massnahmen-mvu.html https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/allgemeine-seiten/medienmitteilung...
  - _trampeltier 4y ago
    https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/billettverkauf-in-zuercher-regionalbussen-wird-abgeschafft-884998852548 https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/billettverkauf-in-zuercher-regi... Änderung bei ÖV-Tickets Billettverkauf in Zürcher Regionalbussen wird abgeschafft
    - Xylakant 4y ago
      "You can no longer buy a ticket on the bus" is different to "you have to use the app" You can't buy a ticket on a Subway, S-Bahn or regional train in Berlin - it's been like that for decades. You have to use a vending machine.
      - _trampeltier 4y ago
        In regional bus, there are no machines in small bus stops.
- tripa 4y ago
  And, to the best of my knowledge, wrong. I bought a ticket there on the automated machines just a month ago
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Thank you for clearing that up, I had a hard time envisioning the Swiss from disenfranchising the elderly in such a callous way. Usually their policies make good sense.
_trampeltier 4y ago
Maybe I wrote it a bit quick. It is still possible to buy tickets on machines. But they changed the law on the beginning 2022. Now in regional busses, they don't have to sell a ticket. They still do. But the law is now, they don't really have to do it. Änderung bei ÖV-Tickets Billettverkauf in Zürcher Regionalbussen wird abgeschafft https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/billettverkauf-in-zuercher-regionalbussen-wird-abgeschafft-884998852548 https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/billettverkauf-in-zuercher-regi...

jacquesm 4y ago

> the only way to buy a ticket is an App That's horrific.

Xylakant 4y ago
It also seems to be wrong, since the ZVV website explicitly mentions the app, the online ticket store and vending machines. [1] What seems to have happened though is that during the pandemic, the bus and tram personell that used to sell tickets as well stopped doing so to minimize contact. [2] This obviously is still a problem since not all stops have vending machines, so there’s the extra rule that you can buy your ticket at the next stop that has a vending machine. Inconvenient? Certainly. End of the anonymous travel? Certainly not. [1] https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/abos-und-tickets/tickets/einzelbillette-und-mehrfartenkarten.html https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/abos-und-tickets/tickets/einzelbil... [2] https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/allgemeine-seiten/medienmitteilungen/2020/coronavirus-massnahmen-mvu.html https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/allgemeine-seiten/medienmitteilung...
- _trampeltier 4y ago
  https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/billettverkauf-in-zuercher-regionalbussen-wird-abgeschafft-884998852548 https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/billettverkauf-in-zuercher-regi... Änderung bei ÖV-Tickets Billettverkauf in Zürcher Regionalbussen wird abgeschafft
  - Xylakant 4y ago
    "You can no longer buy a ticket on the bus" is different to "you have to use the app" You can't buy a ticket on a Subway, S-Bahn or regional train in Berlin - it's been like that for decades. You have to use a vending machine.
    - _trampeltier 4y ago
      In regional bus, there are no machines in small bus stops.
tripa 4y ago
And, to the best of my knowledge, wrong. I bought a ticket there on the automated machines just a month ago
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Thank you for clearing that up, I had a hard time envisioning the Swiss from disenfranchising the elderly in such a callous way. Usually their policies make good sense.

_trampeltier 4y ago

Maybe I wrote it a bit quick. It is still possible to buy tickets on machines. But they changed the law on the beginning 2022. Now in regional busses, they don't have to sell a ticket. They still do. But the law is now, they don't really have to do it. Änderung bei ÖV-Tickets Billettverkauf in Zürcher Regionalbussen wird abgeschafft https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/billettverkauf-in-zuercher-regionalbussen-wird-abgeschafft-884998852548 https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/billettverkauf-in-zuercher-regi...