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I live in Dresden and I agree that there is are groups with pretty bad, conservative, racist or extreme views. But there are also other groups and I would say t

I live in Dresden and I agree that there is are groups with pretty bad, conservative, racist or extreme views. But there are also other groups and I would say the 'other' groups are definitely the (largely silent) majority. Similar patterns exist also elsewhere: What are the 'Querdenker' (or Pegigda) in Dresden are the 'Gelbwesten' in France, the Brexit-voters in UK, the 'Unite the Right' In Virginia, Charlottesville, etc. Saying that you would never move to Saxony or Thuringia is a generalization and it doesn't help anyone.

auggierose 4y ago
Oh, it definitely helps those who don't know better. As a person of color, YOU SHOULD NOT MOVE THERE.
- Helmut10001 4y ago
  Sorry, but this is absolutely not true. As a person of color, you may experience the same difficulties all over Germany (or, Europe or in the US, by the way), not just in Dresden. I am not saying that this is good or acceptable or anything, just that Dresden does not stand out in any way in this regard - only perhaps from an outsiders perspective.
  - auggierose 4y ago
    Well, I know that my little sister and brother have been hunted in the streets of some town in (former) East Germany while visiting. I don't think it was Dresden, but close. This has NEVER happened to them while living in (former) West Germany. Sometimes being an outsider helps to see things more clearly than when you are an insider, Helmut. Oh, I've been born close to Leipzig, by the way.
    - Helmut10001 4y ago
      I have worked in California, Virginia, and Germany, and I've seen racist contexts in all these locations. East vs West Germany: Yes, perhaps the east is somewhat more opposed to outsiders, but only in the country side - cities like Dresden, Berlin, Leipzig are similarly diverse as are West German cities. And if you go to a rural area in Bavaria, you'll find (former) Pegida as well. It is just not as simple as the generalizations made by you and others.
      - auggierose 4y ago
        In the end, when it comes down to a decision, you need something simple: Yes or No. Yes, I move there, or No, I don't move there. As a person of color, and if you have a choice, the answer is NO (I also wouldn't recommend rural Bavaria, but Munich is fine).

auggierose 4y ago

Oh, it definitely helps those who don't know better. As a person of color, YOU SHOULD NOT MOVE THERE.

Helmut10001 4y ago
Sorry, but this is absolutely not true. As a person of color, you may experience the same difficulties all over Germany (or, Europe or in the US, by the way), not just in Dresden. I am not saying that this is good or acceptable or anything, just that Dresden does not stand out in any way in this regard - only perhaps from an outsiders perspective.
- auggierose 4y ago
  Well, I know that my little sister and brother have been hunted in the streets of some town in (former) East Germany while visiting. I don't think it was Dresden, but close. This has NEVER happened to them while living in (former) West Germany. Sometimes being an outsider helps to see things more clearly than when you are an insider, Helmut. Oh, I've been born close to Leipzig, by the way.
  - Helmut10001 4y ago
    I have worked in California, Virginia, and Germany, and I've seen racist contexts in all these locations. East vs West Germany: Yes, perhaps the east is somewhat more opposed to outsiders, but only in the country side - cities like Dresden, Berlin, Leipzig are similarly diverse as are West German cities. And if you go to a rural area in Bavaria, you'll find (former) Pegida as well. It is just not as simple as the generalizations made by you and others.
    - auggierose 4y ago
      In the end, when it comes down to a decision, you need something simple: Yes or No. Yes, I move there, or No, I don't move there. As a person of color, and if you have a choice, the answer is NO (I also wouldn't recommend rural Bavaria, but Munich is fine).