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I miss /~username/ urls. Also that HTML! <html> <BASE HREF=http://www.mecklerweb.com/mags/iw/v6n1/feat26.htm> <TITLE>v6n1 January 1995 Best a

I miss /~username/ urls. Also that HTML! <html> <BASE HREF=http://www.mecklerweb.com/mags/iw/v6n1/feat26.htm> <TITLE>v6n1 January 1995 Best and Worst</TITLE> <H1>The Best and Worst of 1994 and Predictions for '95</H1> <I>by Eric Berlin</I><P><I> </I><HR> ... No </P>'s to be found :-)

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gmmeyer 4y ago
it's funny that web browsers parse Ps in there
kristopolous 4y ago
That's in spec for the time. HTML 2.0 draft 00, November 1994: "2.14.1 Paragraph <P> Level 0 The Paragraph element indicates a paragraph. The exact indentation, leading, etc. of a paragraph is not defined and may be a function of other tags, style sheets, etc. Typically, paragraphs are surrounded by a vertical space of one line or half a line. This is typically not the case within the Address element and or is never the case within the Preformatted Text element. With some HTML user agents, the first line in a paragraph is indented. Example of use: <H1>This Heading Precedes the Paragraph</H1> <P>This is the text of the first paragraph. <P>This is the text of the second paragraph. Although you do not need to start paragraphs on new lines, maintaining this convention facilitates document maintenance. <P>This is the text of a third paragraph. " https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-html-spec-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-html-spec-0... This is still "true". You can't embed a <P> in another <P>. It's special that way. I've never tried it using JS with just an addChild though, I wonder what would happen...
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Like the optional semicolon in JS. I am a semicolon guy (and general unfan of JS tricks and shortcuts) but plenty of people prefer not to have them!
- neilv 4y ago
  I remember learning `<P>` this way in 1994. (And it was awhile before I saw `</LI>` end tags.) Coincidentally, in April of this year, I got an urgent request from someone parsing 1994-era HTML, to change the ancient Racket permissive HTML parser, to support the even more ancient 1994 `p` elements better: https://www.neilvandyke.org/racket/html-parsing/#%28part._.History%29 https://www.neilvandyke.org/racket/html-parsing/#%28part._.H...
- brabel 4y ago
  P is not so special, several HTML tags do not require a closing tag. I think it's even a mistake to close "br", "hr" for example? Even the MDN docs show "hr" examples without closing: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/hr https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/hr Though they prefer to show "p" with closing tags (they mention it's optional though, and auto-close when one of several other tags are found: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/p https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/p). HTML was designed to be written by hand as previous generations of typesetting languages. I think this is the main difference from XML, and this was the reason of a war in the 90's about making HTML a sub-set of XML: see XHTML (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/XHTML https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/XHTM...)
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    hr makes a lot of sense not to close. Does it ever have children? br too. p not closing feels a bit like a MS Word pilcro. In that regard I get it.
smcl 4y ago
I encountered this recently! I was looking at the source of a Maciej Cegłowski article on his idlewords.com site, and was perplexed at why </p> omitted. I had no idea it was valid HTML :)
jwilk 4y ago
> No </P>'s to be found :-) Vaguely related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31694849 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31694849 ("Write HTML Right", ~2 months ago, 205 comments)

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gmmeyer 4y ago

it's funny that web browsers parse Ps in there

kristopolous 4y ago

That's in spec for the time. HTML 2.0 draft 00, November 1994: "2.14.1 Paragraph <P> Level 0 The Paragraph element indicates a paragraph. The exact indentation, leading, etc. of a paragraph is not defined and may be a function of other tags, style sheets, etc. Typically, paragraphs are surrounded by a vertical space of one line or half a line. This is typically not the case within the Address element and or is never the case within the Preformatted Text element. With some HTML user agents, the first line in a paragraph is indented. Example of use: <H1>This Heading Precedes the Paragraph</H1> <P>This is the text of the first paragraph. <P>This is the text of the second paragraph. Although you do not need to start paragraphs on new lines, maintaining this convention facilitates document maintenance. <P>This is the text of a third paragraph. " https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-html-spec-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-html-spec-0... This is still "true". You can't embed a <P> in another <P>. It's special that way. I've never tried it using JS with just an addChild though, I wonder what would happen...

quickthrower2 4y ago
Like the optional semicolon in JS. I am a semicolon guy (and general unfan of JS tricks and shortcuts) but plenty of people prefer not to have them!
neilv 4y ago
I remember learning `<P>` this way in 1994. (And it was awhile before I saw `</LI>` end tags.) Coincidentally, in April of this year, I got an urgent request from someone parsing 1994-era HTML, to change the ancient Racket permissive HTML parser, to support the even more ancient 1994 `p` elements better: https://www.neilvandyke.org/racket/html-parsing/#%28part._.History%29 https://www.neilvandyke.org/racket/html-parsing/#%28part._.H...
brabel 4y ago
P is not so special, several HTML tags do not require a closing tag. I think it's even a mistake to close "br", "hr" for example? Even the MDN docs show "hr" examples without closing: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/hr https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/hr Though they prefer to show "p" with closing tags (they mention it's optional though, and auto-close when one of several other tags are found: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/p https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/p). HTML was designed to be written by hand as previous generations of typesetting languages. I think this is the main difference from XML, and this was the reason of a war in the 90's about making HTML a sub-set of XML: see XHTML (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/XHTML https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/XHTM...)
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  hr makes a lot of sense not to close. Does it ever have children? br too. p not closing feels a bit like a MS Word pilcro. In that regard I get it.

smcl 4y ago

I encountered this recently! I was looking at the source of a Maciej Cegłowski article on his idlewords.com site, and was perplexed at why </p> omitted. I had no idea it was valid HTML :)

jwilk 4y ago

> No </P>'s to be found :-) Vaguely related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31694849 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31694849 ("Write HTML Right", ~2 months ago, 205 comments)