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> How on earth can Spotify distinguish real Fanny from fake Fanny? I can't tell if the post is serious or just a setup now.

nerdponx 4y ago
To be fair, Spotify often conflates lesser-known artists that have the same name, particularly if they both inhabit some kind of "alt" genre, even if the two genres are totally different alt genres. Are they two different artists, or did they just change their sound? Sometimes it's obvious (e.g. techno DJ and death metal band with same name), but sometimes it's not even easy for a human to decide (two unrelated indie bands from the early '10s with the same name). So it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that it can be exploited for money laundering and/or algorithm revenue farming.
- peddling-brink 4y ago
  The person you replied to was suggesting that the previous post was a setup to be able to use that last line. Fanny is a slang term.
labster 4y ago
Wasn’t the whole point of Brexit to have less regulation on things like region of origin? British Fanny is just as good as continental Fanny, even if it isn’t as popular. It’s not “fake Fanny”, it just gets less exposure.
- d1sxeyes 4y ago
  This ends up being quite a hairy conversation, normally.
vintermann 4y ago
Probably serious enough, since the album they describe exists. Spotify is smart enough to know that it isn't "the" Fanny Mendelssohn though - at least in the artist database. It could well be that Release Radar is dumber and is fooled by the matching name.
- hahajk 4y ago
  Or enough other people were fooled and listen to the "fake" Fanny, creating a listener correlation between the real and fake Fannys.
  - vintermann 4y ago
    Release Radar by its nature will try to recommend tracks with very few plays (if any). It is supposed to solve the "bootstrap" problem in recommendation systems. In retrospect, I think it's more likely that Fake Fanny Mendlelssohn did NOT inform Spotify that they were a different person, and Spotify only split it out after a lot of Felix/Fanny fans clicked "I did NOT like this" when the track was put in their Release Radar.
    - warty_affrays 4y ago
      The Release Radar playlist is supposed to contain new releases from artists you already listen to. I think you might be right about the release radar being a method they use to separate out bands with the same name. I've definitely noticed bands with the same name in my Release Radar. It would be useful if Spotify exposed a method to report different bands under the same name. The do not recommend is a different signal since maybe I also like the new band. I probably mess up Spotify's recommendation algorithm for me since I use the heart button to flag albums as listened to regardless of my enjoyment since there isn't a another way to mark albums as "listened" like there is for podcasts.
      - vintermann 4y ago
        There is a tool, but it's for the artists only. Probably kept as a carrot to encourage artists to register with Spotify.
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nerdponx 4y ago

To be fair, Spotify often conflates lesser-known artists that have the same name, particularly if they both inhabit some kind of "alt" genre, even if the two genres are totally different alt genres. Are they two different artists, or did they just change their sound? Sometimes it's obvious (e.g. techno DJ and death metal band with same name), but sometimes it's not even easy for a human to decide (two unrelated indie bands from the early '10s with the same name). So it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that it can be exploited for money laundering and/or algorithm revenue farming.

peddling-brink 4y ago
The person you replied to was suggesting that the previous post was a setup to be able to use that last line. Fanny is a slang term.

labster 4y ago

Wasn’t the whole point of Brexit to have less regulation on things like region of origin? British Fanny is just as good as continental Fanny, even if it isn’t as popular. It’s not “fake Fanny”, it just gets less exposure.

d1sxeyes 4y ago
This ends up being quite a hairy conversation, normally.

vintermann 4y ago

Probably serious enough, since the album they describe exists. Spotify is smart enough to know that it isn't "the" Fanny Mendelssohn though - at least in the artist database. It could well be that Release Radar is dumber and is fooled by the matching name.

hahajk 4y ago
Or enough other people were fooled and listen to the "fake" Fanny, creating a listener correlation between the real and fake Fannys.
- vintermann 4y ago
  Release Radar by its nature will try to recommend tracks with very few plays (if any). It is supposed to solve the "bootstrap" problem in recommendation systems. In retrospect, I think it's more likely that Fake Fanny Mendlelssohn did NOT inform Spotify that they were a different person, and Spotify only split it out after a lot of Felix/Fanny fans clicked "I did NOT like this" when the track was put in their Release Radar.
  - warty_affrays 4y ago
    The Release Radar playlist is supposed to contain new releases from artists you already listen to. I think you might be right about the release radar being a method they use to separate out bands with the same name. I've definitely noticed bands with the same name in my Release Radar. It would be useful if Spotify exposed a method to report different bands under the same name. The do not recommend is a different signal since maybe I also like the new band. I probably mess up Spotify's recommendation algorithm for me since I use the heart button to flag albums as listened to regardless of my enjoyment since there isn't a another way to mark albums as "listened" like there is for podcasts.
    - vintermann 4y ago
      There is a tool, but it's for the artists only. Probably kept as a carrot to encourage artists to register with Spotify.

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