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This feels like the Spotify version of the websites you find on Google that just scrape Stack Overflow As Spotify's recommendations become more ingrained in ho

by ford 4y ago

This feels like the Spotify version of the websites you find on Google that just scrape Stack Overflow As Spotify's recommendations become more ingrained in how people listen to music they'll have to think about how to treat "song spam"

mkl95 4y ago
Song spam does not seem to be endemic yet, but there are tons of low quality covers. Many classic rock songs have a couple of decent covers and half a dozen abysmal ones.
wohfab 4y ago
I recently discovered YouTube videos that use a crappy spoken intro with a real human face in it and then proceed to display scraped StackOverflow answers as text with music in the background. the intro/outro is always the same as it is very generic. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HElG3iLn6Kk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HElG3iLn6Kk
- zebracanevra 4y ago
  Oh yes, there are many of those. Here's another example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=219t6qwOWYk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=219t6qwOWYk
vintermann 4y ago
Oh, they have been aware of it for a long time. https://blog.echonest.com/post/48943428838/how-we-cope-with-spammers-fakers-and-cloners https://blog.echonest.com/post/48943428838/how-we-cope-with-... Spotify is actually half-decent here. The other streaming services seem to mainly compete on cutting costs, and many are little more than frontends over 7digital's services (who, surprise, also do virtually nothing to prevent spam). To take an example: https://www.deezer.com/search/%22From%20the%20box%22/album https://www.deezer.com/search/%22From%20the%20box%22/album That particular spammer has been doing this thing for years. He's easily recognizable: one characteristic is the way he uses colour filters. If you search qobuz (one of these terrible front-end streaming services which does no QQ) for the label "piano to go", and say, the album "Joker Games", you'll notice it's uploaded once for Bill Haley, and once for Bill Haley & his Comets. That was apparently close enough to be detected as a duplicate, so he put a blue image filter on the latter. Most of this guy's albums eventually get deleted (or delisted), even on sites like Qobuz - probably more for lack of plays than for being detected as spam, I'd bet. So you don't get his full history. But I found out the French library service made some effort to catalogue streaming releases a while back, and with access to search in those, you can track his evolution. He was a lot sloppier in the past, for instance he didn't bother to come up with a new label name for every dump. But he's been at it since at least 2015.
- bpye 4y ago
  I guess Apple have some sort of curation, or maybe don't use 7digital at all, because Apple Music shows no results for "From the box".
  - vintermann 4y ago
    Yeah. I haven't used them, but Apple Music too seems to have blocked this spammer. Google (YouTube music now) too. Tidal still has him, though: https://tidal.com/browse/album/241125359 https://tidal.com/browse/album/241125359

by ford 4y ago

mkl95 4y ago

Song spam does not seem to be endemic yet, but there are tons of low quality covers. Many classic rock songs have a couple of decent covers and half a dozen abysmal ones.

wohfab 4y ago

I recently discovered YouTube videos that use a crappy spoken intro with a real human face in it and then proceed to display scraped StackOverflow answers as text with music in the background. the intro/outro is always the same as it is very generic. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HElG3iLn6Kk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HElG3iLn6Kk

zebracanevra 4y ago
Oh yes, there are many of those. Here's another example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=219t6qwOWYk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=219t6qwOWYk

vintermann 4y ago

Oh, they have been aware of it for a long time. https://blog.echonest.com/post/48943428838/how-we-cope-with-spammers-fakers-and-cloners https://blog.echonest.com/post/48943428838/how-we-cope-with-... Spotify is actually half-decent here. The other streaming services seem to mainly compete on cutting costs, and many are little more than frontends over 7digital's services (who, surprise, also do virtually nothing to prevent spam). To take an example: https://www.deezer.com/search/%22From%20the%20box%22/album https://www.deezer.com/search/%22From%20the%20box%22/album That particular spammer has been doing this thing for years. He's easily recognizable: one characteristic is the way he uses colour filters. If you search qobuz (one of these terrible front-end streaming services which does no QQ) for the label "piano to go", and say, the album "Joker Games", you'll notice it's uploaded once for Bill Haley, and once for Bill Haley & his Comets. That was apparently close enough to be detected as a duplicate, so he put a blue image filter on the latter. Most of this guy's albums eventually get deleted (or delisted), even on sites like Qobuz - probably more for lack of plays than for being detected as spam, I'd bet. So you don't get his full history. But I found out the French library service made some effort to catalogue streaming releases a while back, and with access to search in those, you can track his evolution. He was a lot sloppier in the past, for instance he didn't bother to come up with a new label name for every dump. But he's been at it since at least 2015.

bpye 4y ago
I guess Apple have some sort of curation, or maybe don't use 7digital at all, because Apple Music shows no results for "From the box".
- vintermann 4y ago
  Yeah. I haven't used them, but Apple Music too seems to have blocked this spammer. Google (YouTube music now) too. Tidal still has him, though: https://tidal.com/browse/album/241125359 https://tidal.com/browse/album/241125359