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DALL-E 2 just got smoked. Anyone with a graphics card isn't going to pay to generate images, or have their prompts blocked because of the overly aggressive anti

DALL-E 2 just got smoked. Anyone with a graphics card isn't going to pay to generate images, or have their prompts blocked because of the overly aggressive anti-abuse filter, or have to put up with the DALL-E 2 "signature" in the corner. It makes me wonder how OpenAI is going to work around this because this makes DALL-E 2 a very uncompetitive proposition. Except, of course, for people without graphics cards, but it's not 2020 anymore.

polygamous_bat 4y ago
This, however, is unconditionally good for the end users. I expect OpenAI to lower their prices significantly quite soon.
- morsch 4y ago
  In fact, they announced lower prices today, going into effect in September. https://openai.com/api/pricing/ https://openai.com/api/pricing/
  - aaronharnly 4y ago
    That’s for GPT-3 text generation, not the DALL-E 2 image generator. Hopefully that will get pricing revised down (and an official API) before long.
    - morsch 4y ago
      Oh, I see! Thanks, I should have read the mail more closely.
at_a_remove 4y ago
I have been considering building a "modern" computer and now wonder exactly what I need to load this puppy up.
- TulliusCicero 4y ago
  People are saying you need a GPU with 6.9GB of RAM for the current model, so in practice at least an 8GB GPU. Thankfully, GPU prices have finally calmed down and you can get one for a reasonable price. I think any of the RTX 3000 series desktop GPU's should do it, for example.
Baeocystin 4y ago
DALL-E's filters are so harsh that I find myself often in the situation where I don't even understand how what I prompted could possibly be in violation. It's a novel feeling, but utterly stifling when it comes to actual creativity, and I'm not even trying to push any NSFW boundaries, just explore the artspace. Once I can run unfiltered on my own GPU, DALL-E will never get used by me again.
- vintermann 4y ago
  The usual modern Google experience: they won't tell you what you did wrong.
  - derac 4y ago
    Openai isn't a Alphabet/google company
    - vintermann 4y ago
      I didn't mean to imply that, only that it's the sort of behaviour they are famous for.
- LouisSayers 4y ago
  Yup, my mum asked if I could generate an image of her cat riding a horse on a pirate ship. Problem was that her cat is a Maine Coon cat and DALL-E doesn't like the word "coon". When I finally got an image of a Maine long haired cat on a horse when I tried to expand the image it was giving me another error. I think the cat was sitting on the backside of the horses back, and I guess it thought it was too close to a doggy style position...
throwaway675309 4y ago
Midjourney also completely destroys DALL-e from a price perspective, effectively allowing nearly unlimited generation for approximately $50 a month. Even though DALL-E tends to be better at following prompt details, you're inhibited from being able to explore the space freely because of how prohibitively expensive it can become.
- starshadowx2 4y ago
  It only costs $30 a month for unlimited Midjourney generation.

polygamous_bat 4y ago

This, however, is unconditionally good for the end users. I expect OpenAI to lower their prices significantly quite soon.

morsch 4y ago
In fact, they announced lower prices today, going into effect in September. https://openai.com/api/pricing/ https://openai.com/api/pricing/
- aaronharnly 4y ago
  That’s for GPT-3 text generation, not the DALL-E 2 image generator. Hopefully that will get pricing revised down (and an official API) before long.
  - morsch 4y ago
    Oh, I see! Thanks, I should have read the mail more closely.

at_a_remove 4y ago

I have been considering building a "modern" computer and now wonder exactly what I need to load this puppy up.

TulliusCicero 4y ago
People are saying you need a GPU with 6.9GB of RAM for the current model, so in practice at least an 8GB GPU. Thankfully, GPU prices have finally calmed down and you can get one for a reasonable price. I think any of the RTX 3000 series desktop GPU's should do it, for example.

Baeocystin 4y ago

DALL-E's filters are so harsh that I find myself often in the situation where I don't even understand how what I prompted could possibly be in violation. It's a novel feeling, but utterly stifling when it comes to actual creativity, and I'm not even trying to push any NSFW boundaries, just explore the artspace. Once I can run unfiltered on my own GPU, DALL-E will never get used by me again.

vintermann 4y ago
The usual modern Google experience: they won't tell you what you did wrong.
- derac 4y ago
  Openai isn't a Alphabet/google company
  - vintermann 4y ago
    I didn't mean to imply that, only that it's the sort of behaviour they are famous for.
LouisSayers 4y ago
Yup, my mum asked if I could generate an image of her cat riding a horse on a pirate ship. Problem was that her cat is a Maine Coon cat and DALL-E doesn't like the word "coon". When I finally got an image of a Maine long haired cat on a horse when I tried to expand the image it was giving me another error. I think the cat was sitting on the backside of the horses back, and I guess it thought it was too close to a doggy style position...

throwaway675309 4y ago

Midjourney also completely destroys DALL-e from a price perspective, effectively allowing nearly unlimited generation for approximately $50 a month. Even though DALL-E tends to be better at following prompt details, you're inhibited from being able to explore the space freely because of how prohibitively expensive it can become.

starshadowx2 4y ago
It only costs $30 a month for unlimited Midjourney generation.