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How does a TPMS mandate existence or inexistence prevent you from getting that option when buying the car or installing the aftermarket version?

Johnny555 4y ago
I didn't advocate for or against a TPMS mandate, but I don't want a third party system because a factory TPMS display will be built-into the car's instrument paenl, I don't need to velcro a separate TPMS display to my dashboard and either hardwire it or keep it charged. Plus I know that the OEM system is engineered for that car, I don't have to worry about installing repeaters because there's too much metal between the sensors and the receiver. But that said, I do believe that the TPMS mandate is worthwhile, I've been alerted a couple times already to a nearly flat tire. (both times due to damage while driving, so I wouldn't have noticed it even if I checked my tire pressure every time I drive the car, which I doubt many people do)
- NullPrefix 4y ago
  OK, so you're saying that aftermarket TPMS might not be convenient, however, like I said in the original comment, you still have the option to buy the option when buying the car.
  - Johnny555 4y ago
    Would a pressure reading TPMS system be offered by manufacturers if they already implemented the cheaper passive ABS based system?
    - NullPrefix 4y ago
      As you said previously, TPMS gives a more verbose output than ABS based system. That's a pretty obvious selling point
      - Johnny555 4y ago
        Is it? My car doesn't offer it as an option, it only offers the ABS based system. Does any car offer the more granular TPMS system if they already offer the ABS based system to fulfill the legal requirement?
        NullPrefix 4y ago
        Would you be willing to share the make and model of your car?
        Johnny555 4y ago
        2021 Honda Accord. From the owner's manual: Instead of directly measuring the pressure in each tire, the TPMS on this vehicle monitors and compares the rolling radius and rotational characteristics of each wheel and tire while you are driving to determine if one or more tires are significantly under-inflated. There's no other TPMS option available for that generation (10th Generation) car at any trim level, not sure about the new 11th Gen coming out this year.
        NullPrefix 4y ago
        I was kinda in the wrong, that appears to be correct. Honda is advertising the ABS based system as TPMS and is not offering any "upgrades".
    - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
      What does "ABS" stand for in this context?
      - grzm 4y ago
        Anti-lock braking system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system
      - Johnny555 4y ago
        It doesn't actually require the ABS (anti-lock braking system), but uses the ABS wheel speed sensors to count wheel rotations, so it's essentially a free way to add TPMS, no additional hardware required since ABS is already required, just need software to track wheel rotations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-pressure_monitoring_system#Indirect_TPMS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-pressure_monitoring_syste...

Johnny555 4y ago

I didn't advocate for or against a TPMS mandate, but I don't want a third party system because a factory TPMS display will be built-into the car's instrument paenl, I don't need to velcro a separate TPMS display to my dashboard and either hardwire it or keep it charged. Plus I know that the OEM system is engineered for that car, I don't have to worry about installing repeaters because there's too much metal between the sensors and the receiver. But that said, I do believe that the TPMS mandate is worthwhile, I've been alerted a couple times already to a nearly flat tire. (both times due to damage while driving, so I wouldn't have noticed it even if I checked my tire pressure every time I drive the car, which I doubt many people do)

NullPrefix 4y ago
OK, so you're saying that aftermarket TPMS might not be convenient, however, like I said in the original comment, you still have the option to buy the option when buying the car.
- Johnny555 4y ago
  Would a pressure reading TPMS system be offered by manufacturers if they already implemented the cheaper passive ABS based system?
  - NullPrefix 4y ago
    As you said previously, TPMS gives a more verbose output than ABS based system. That's a pretty obvious selling point
    - Johnny555 4y ago
      Is it? My car doesn't offer it as an option, it only offers the ABS based system. Does any car offer the more granular TPMS system if they already offer the ABS based system to fulfill the legal requirement?
      - NullPrefix 4y ago
        Would you be willing to share the make and model of your car?
        Johnny555 4y ago
        2021 Honda Accord. From the owner's manual: Instead of directly measuring the pressure in each tire, the TPMS on this vehicle monitors and compares the rolling radius and rotational characteristics of each wheel and tire while you are driving to determine if one or more tires are significantly under-inflated. There's no other TPMS option available for that generation (10th Generation) car at any trim level, not sure about the new 11th Gen coming out this year.
        NullPrefix 4y ago
        I was kinda in the wrong, that appears to be correct. Honda is advertising the ABS based system as TPMS and is not offering any "upgrades".
  - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
    What does "ABS" stand for in this context?
    - grzm 4y ago
      Anti-lock braking system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system
    - Johnny555 4y ago
      It doesn't actually require the ABS (anti-lock braking system), but uses the ABS wheel speed sensors to count wheel rotations, so it's essentially a free way to add TPMS, no additional hardware required since ABS is already required, just need software to track wheel rotations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-pressure_monitoring_system#Indirect_TPMS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-pressure_monitoring_syste...