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I feel you. I want Apple's privacy advantages but every single time I use an Apple product I just feel like I can barely do anything useful with it. Do you stil

I feel you. I want Apple's privacy advantages but every single time I use an Apple product I just feel like I can barely do anything useful with it. Do you still have to jailbreak your iphone to set a custom ringtone? Edit: I just checked and amazingly, yes. Unless you have a mac from a specific time with specific software to maybe help you out. If it's a song available on itunes you might be able to buy it as a ringtone but if it's something like your own recording, and you don't have a mac, basically go die in a ditch. Embarrassing.

bogwog 4y ago
Jailbreaking isn’t even possible anymore on the newer phones. The latest iOS bricks your device if it detects any changes to the filesystem.
- fomine3 4y ago
  Since it's software, it's never be a perfect so someone will find a bug sometimes to break the restriction.
lostgame 4y ago
You can’t still use GarageBand on the iPhone to make custom ringtones on device?
- bombcar 4y ago
  I think you can, I know I have a custom ringtone and I forget how I did it, but I didn't jailbreak or pay.
mechanical_bear 4y ago
It’s always weird to me when I hear people with custom ringtones on their phones, it feels super boomer and a bit embarrassing. I’m not sure I’ve even heard my iPhone 12 ever audibly ring, vibrate or gtfo.
- sircastor 4y ago
  Thinking on it, I think I’ve heard my 12 mini ring a couple of times, but always in the context of “What? Weird, why is that on?” I had a custom ring tone on my first iPhone, and probably the Android after that. Since then, it’s never been worth the effort. I’m rarely in a situation where I need to hear my phone ring.
  - millzlane 4y ago
    It's nice to identify callers if your pone rings a lot. Unknown callers get a different ring. It's also nice to be able to customize what you own. I know not everyone wants to customize but it's hard to argue that it not a nice feature to have when you want it. Imagine being able to have a custom start up chime for your car. Now imagine every other car is able to do it except for yours. Thats not very fun.
LeafItAlone 4y ago
You can make a custom ringtone directly on your iPhone. It’s not a one click process but it’s not also extremely complicated.
TazeTSchnitzel 4y ago
Are you sure you need special software? I'm pretty sure I just exported a normal AAC file and renamed it to end in .m4r, then dragged it into iTunes…
nirui 4y ago
Can I doubt about the privacy advantages part? I've noticed that Apple really love to talk about such things. But, they are making string-attached proprietary equipments behind a closed door, and as far as I know, they don't have a formal declaration on what exactly is the privacy that they've claimed to guard. So how to actually prove that they do care and protects user privacy instead of just use the word to make their ads more appearing?
- thomastjeffery 4y ago
  Your doubt is absolutely reasonable. I think it's also reasonable to trust Apple to actually implement the security and privacy features they claim to, because those features are a part of their product, which means their incentives are clearly aligned, and there is some professional auditing being done. I think it's even more reasonable to have a relative preference for Apple products, when compared to Google products, because Google's incentives are clearly perversely aligned against user privacy. Even so, the fact that AOSP can be readily audited by literally anyone does create a more provable reason to trust devices running Android. This does, unfortunately, have some serious limitations, like the fact that most Android devices can only run whatever closed-source AOSP fork the manufacturer flashes on it, and Android is considered generally incomplete without the closed-source Google Play store and its associated apps.
- theshrike79 4y ago
  Apple specifically does things the hard way so they don't need to know anything about you. Siri works mostly on-device and any queries are anonymised. This is one of the reasons why it's not as good as Google's Assistant. Assistant on the other hand is 100% cloud-based, but has been moving more to on-device. Same with Apple Maps, they cut any fetched route to multiple legs and fetch each individually so they won't accidentally know where you are going. All suggestions on possible destinations are based on on-device ML. Google's version just happily uploads every place you've ever been to the cloud and uses that to calculate possible destinations.

bogwog 4y ago

Jailbreaking isn’t even possible anymore on the newer phones. The latest iOS bricks your device if it detects any changes to the filesystem.

fomine3 4y ago
Since it's software, it's never be a perfect so someone will find a bug sometimes to break the restriction.

lostgame 4y ago

You can’t still use GarageBand on the iPhone to make custom ringtones on device?

bombcar 4y ago
I think you can, I know I have a custom ringtone and I forget how I did it, but I didn't jailbreak or pay.

mechanical_bear 4y ago

It’s always weird to me when I hear people with custom ringtones on their phones, it feels super boomer and a bit embarrassing. I’m not sure I’ve even heard my iPhone 12 ever audibly ring, vibrate or gtfo.

sircastor 4y ago
Thinking on it, I think I’ve heard my 12 mini ring a couple of times, but always in the context of “What? Weird, why is that on?” I had a custom ring tone on my first iPhone, and probably the Android after that. Since then, it’s never been worth the effort. I’m rarely in a situation where I need to hear my phone ring.
- millzlane 4y ago
  It's nice to identify callers if your pone rings a lot. Unknown callers get a different ring. It's also nice to be able to customize what you own. I know not everyone wants to customize but it's hard to argue that it not a nice feature to have when you want it. Imagine being able to have a custom start up chime for your car. Now imagine every other car is able to do it except for yours. Thats not very fun.

LeafItAlone 4y ago

You can make a custom ringtone directly on your iPhone. It’s not a one click process but it’s not also extremely complicated.

TazeTSchnitzel 4y ago

Are you sure you need special software? I'm pretty sure I just exported a normal AAC file and renamed it to end in .m4r, then dragged it into iTunes…

nirui 4y ago

Can I doubt about the privacy advantages part? I've noticed that Apple really love to talk about such things. But, they are making string-attached proprietary equipments behind a closed door, and as far as I know, they don't have a formal declaration on what exactly is the privacy that they've claimed to guard. So how to actually prove that they do care and protects user privacy instead of just use the word to make their ads more appearing?

thomastjeffery 4y ago
Your doubt is absolutely reasonable. I think it's also reasonable to trust Apple to actually implement the security and privacy features they claim to, because those features are a part of their product, which means their incentives are clearly aligned, and there is some professional auditing being done. I think it's even more reasonable to have a relative preference for Apple products, when compared to Google products, because Google's incentives are clearly perversely aligned against user privacy. Even so, the fact that AOSP can be readily audited by literally anyone does create a more provable reason to trust devices running Android. This does, unfortunately, have some serious limitations, like the fact that most Android devices can only run whatever closed-source AOSP fork the manufacturer flashes on it, and Android is considered generally incomplete without the closed-source Google Play store and its associated apps.
theshrike79 4y ago
Apple specifically does things the hard way so they don't need to know anything about you. Siri works mostly on-device and any queries are anonymised. This is one of the reasons why it's not as good as Google's Assistant. Assistant on the other hand is 100% cloud-based, but has been moving more to on-device. Same with Apple Maps, they cut any fetched route to multiple legs and fetch each individually so they won't accidentally know where you are going. All suggestions on possible destinations are based on on-device ML. Google's version just happily uploads every place you've ever been to the cloud and uses that to calculate possible destinations.