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Congratulations. You’ve found your ideal dosage for your unique situation. For many of us, one drink leads to more drinks at which point the physiological and

by Mtinie 4y ago

Congratulations. You’ve found your ideal dosage for your unique situation. For many of us, one drink leads to more drinks at which point the physiological and psychological changes covered in the linked article become amplified.

soco 4y ago
The problem with the discussion is, most people here against alcohol sound to me like vegans. I mean, unable to discuss the "I only drink twice a week a beer" argument. To them even touching alcohol makes one a drunk-driver-wife-beater, deserving no less than high tower scorn. Not very helpful for an argument...
- PretzelPirate 4y ago
  > … most people here against alcohol sound to me like vegans. There’s a pretty big difference. Most people who drink don’t harm another living being, while those who eat animal products are supporting harm towards animals. I understand the vegan perspective but not the perspective of the use who criticize causal drinking.
  - Koshkin 4y ago
    > harm towards animals Killing perceived as causing “harm” (or not) is a somewhat non-trivial philosophical question. In an important sense, death is a social construct. From this point of view, the importance of one’s staying alive is measured by the impact on the society (starting with their family). The life of a chicken, therefore, doesn’t matter, with the exception when it is a pet. (At the same time, the life of a hen who is raising a flock of chicks is important.)
    - PretzelPirate 4y ago
      That’s quite a reductive view to justify hurting a living being. Harm literally means “ physical injury, especially that which is deliberately inflicted” and a chicken whose throat is slit is clearly harmed. Animals don’t die instantly and it’s unreasonable to say “we aren’t harming a chicane by killing them if they didn’t produce value to society.” I’d expect humans to have more empathy and not try or reason their way into needlessly killing a creature who doesn’t want to die.
dh2022 4y ago
Speak for yourself, do not speak for me.
- jjulius 4y ago
  >For many of us... "Many" does not mean "all".
- Mtinie 4y ago
  I don’t speak for you, nor do I present as such. I speak for the hundreds of people I personally know who my statement describes. Those are the many. I’m sure there are others out there I’m not aware of, but I can’t speak for them.

by Mtinie 4y ago

soco 4y ago

The problem with the discussion is, most people here against alcohol sound to me like vegans. I mean, unable to discuss the "I only drink twice a week a beer" argument. To them even touching alcohol makes one a drunk-driver-wife-beater, deserving no less than high tower scorn. Not very helpful for an argument...

PretzelPirate 4y ago
> … most people here against alcohol sound to me like vegans. There’s a pretty big difference. Most people who drink don’t harm another living being, while those who eat animal products are supporting harm towards animals. I understand the vegan perspective but not the perspective of the use who criticize causal drinking.
- Koshkin 4y ago
  > harm towards animals Killing perceived as causing “harm” (or not) is a somewhat non-trivial philosophical question. In an important sense, death is a social construct. From this point of view, the importance of one’s staying alive is measured by the impact on the society (starting with their family). The life of a chicken, therefore, doesn’t matter, with the exception when it is a pet. (At the same time, the life of a hen who is raising a flock of chicks is important.)
  - PretzelPirate 4y ago
    That’s quite a reductive view to justify hurting a living being. Harm literally means “ physical injury, especially that which is deliberately inflicted” and a chicken whose throat is slit is clearly harmed. Animals don’t die instantly and it’s unreasonable to say “we aren’t harming a chicane by killing them if they didn’t produce value to society.” I’d expect humans to have more empathy and not try or reason their way into needlessly killing a creature who doesn’t want to die.

dh2022 4y ago

Speak for yourself, do not speak for me.

jjulius 4y ago
>For many of us... "Many" does not mean "all".
Mtinie 4y ago
I don’t speak for you, nor do I present as such. I speak for the hundreds of people I personally know who my statement describes. Those are the many. I’m sure there are others out there I’m not aware of, but I can’t speak for them.