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Trump's chief of staff at he time, Mick Mulvaney: "Mulvaney added: "Did he also mention to me in the past the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely.

Trump's chief of staff at he time, Mick Mulvaney: "Mulvaney added: "Did he also mention to me in the past the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely. No question about that. But that's it. And that's why we held up the money." ABC News' Jonathan Karl immediately followed up and asked Mulvaney to confirm that "the demand for an investigation into the Democrats was part of the reason that he ordered to withhold funding to Ukraine." Mulvaney replied affirmatively, saying that "the look back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation." https://www.businessinsider.com/mick-mulvaney-confirms-trump-held-ukraine-aid-for-investigation-2019-10?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/mick-mulvaney-confirms-trump...

thepasswordis 4y ago
I mean which is it? Did Ukraine get military aid for the US or not? And what about the previous administration? Was Obama a Russian asset too?
- somebehemoth 4y ago
  The claim was that Trump withheld funding and was impeached for it. You claimed, incorrectly, Trump did not withhold funding. I'm not sure what your other questions are about. You should be more careful of accusing people of falling for fake news when you are having such a hard time distinguishing fact from fiction. "The inquiry reported that Trump withheld military aid[a] and an invitation to the White House to Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy in order to influence Ukraine to announce an investigation into Trump's political opponent Joe Biden" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impeachment_of_Donald_Tr...
  - thepasswordis 4y ago
    My claim is that the aid was ultimately not withheld, which is an objective fact. As far as the impeachment, if you don't see this as nakedly partisan, then I would advise you to try and expand the perspectives you look at current events from.
    - epakai 4y ago
      It has nothing to do with partisanship when a President pressures a foreign aid recipient to announce an investigation into his political rival. It was just plain wrong. That the outcome of the Senate trial was partisan has more to do with party politics. Republican Senators weren't on the floor arguing that Trump did the right thing. They intentionally worked to minimize how much of the trial was able to reach the news cycle because they also knew what occurred was wrong. The whole thing was over in 4 days and it was run on a weekend to minimize exposure. You might recall the upset over how the Senate even voted to not call witnesses.

thepasswordis 4y ago

I mean which is it? Did Ukraine get military aid for the US or not? And what about the previous administration? Was Obama a Russian asset too?

somebehemoth 4y ago
The claim was that Trump withheld funding and was impeached for it. You claimed, incorrectly, Trump did not withhold funding. I'm not sure what your other questions are about. You should be more careful of accusing people of falling for fake news when you are having such a hard time distinguishing fact from fiction. "The inquiry reported that Trump withheld military aid[a] and an invitation to the White House to Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy in order to influence Ukraine to announce an investigation into Trump's political opponent Joe Biden" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impeachment_of_Donald_Tr...
- thepasswordis 4y ago
  My claim is that the aid was ultimately not withheld, which is an objective fact. As far as the impeachment, if you don't see this as nakedly partisan, then I would advise you to try and expand the perspectives you look at current events from.
  - epakai 4y ago
    It has nothing to do with partisanship when a President pressures a foreign aid recipient to announce an investigation into his political rival. It was just plain wrong. That the outcome of the Senate trial was partisan has more to do with party politics. Republican Senators weren't on the floor arguing that Trump did the right thing. They intentionally worked to minimize how much of the trial was able to reach the news cycle because they also knew what occurred was wrong. The whole thing was over in 4 days and it was run on a weekend to minimize exposure. You might recall the upset over how the Senate even voted to not call witnesses.