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And people wonder why I have a pathological disdain for marketing folks. They focus on style over substance, flash over function, and to them nothing shouldn't

And people wonder why I have a pathological disdain for marketing folks. They focus on style over substance, flash over function, and to them nothing shouldn't be done to chase the almighty dollar. Sure there are good honest reputable people out there, but every time I find out someone works in marketing I always lose a little bit of respect for them. And do not give me that bull crap about how "well we just help inform consumers of their choices and raise awarness." That may have been true 50 years ago when the whole family would gather around a radio to tune in to the lone ranger, but these days I probably have an email in my inbox for a company that has the flipping cure for cancer, but I will never know because marketing parasites grab every channel of communication they can find and saturate to the point of uselessness and we end right back up where we were before where the only information I trust is information from people I personally know. So congratulations marketing you've managed to regress society back to the point where my best bet for finding something to solve my problem is consulting the village elder. Engineers get blasted all the time for building crap that is bad, just check out the other thread on spyware that was posted, how about we start holding these marketing con artists accountable for the sh* they sell then.

belfalas 4y ago
> And people wonder why I have a pathological disdain for marketing folks. For your Monday catharsis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  These are very cathartic as well: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuSOaenJ4rbROEqpAew6ULXJfK4m__lgS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuSOaenJ4rbROEqpAew6ULXJf...
- jacquesm 4y ago
  I knew what that was before clicking. Clicked anyway.
  - ChumpTheMasses 4y ago
mandmandam 4y ago
While I generally agree, I think this is a late-stage capitalism problem more than a marketing problem. The fact that there are ads on every square inch, but jail time for graffiti artists, is a major clue that this is a bigger problem. What I'm trying to say is, marketing in its current incarnation is a symptom, not a cause. It's not a coincidence that we outsource all manufacturing to the cheapest bidder. Deforestation, acid oceans, wars for oil, kayfabe geopolitics, the anthropocene extinction, and all the other shit you'll never hear about on corporate news - they have the same root cause, which I think can be called late-stage capitalism.
- cscurmudgeon 4y ago
  There is a difference between ads and graffiti. One is voluntary and the other is not. Also, in places like California no one is going to jail for graffiti. > Deforestation, acid oceans, wars for oil, kayfabe geopolitics, the anthropocene extinction, and all the other shit you'll never hear about on corporate news - they have the same root cause, which I think can be called late-stage capitalism Thats an assertion you believe in. China has roughly 1/6th the global population, is communist controlled and has the same issues.
  - sophacles 4y ago
    Imagine believing china isn't a capitalist country. I know their party is called "communist" but you can slap any label on anything. Next you'll probably try to tell me north korea is democratic because it's in the name. Or McD's all-beef patties are 100% dead cow.
    - cscurmudgeon 4y ago
      > Imagine believing china isn't a capitalist country Funnily, your sibling comment is praising China for being communist. So, what is China? Is it communist when good and capitalist when bad? The reality is communism always in life ALWAYS devolves to corrupt capitalism or a dictatorship and yet advocates and fans believe irrationally that next time will be different due to "reasons."
eli 4y ago
Bad marketing is bad. Good marketing you don't even necessarily perceive as marketing. This website is marketing for Y Combinator.

belfalas 4y ago

> And people wonder why I have a pathological disdain for marketing folks. For your Monday catharsis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0

matheusmoreira 4y ago
These are very cathartic as well: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuSOaenJ4rbROEqpAew6ULXJfK4m__lgS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuSOaenJ4rbROEqpAew6ULXJf...
jacquesm 4y ago
I knew what that was before clicking. Clicked anyway.
- ChumpTheMasses 4y ago

mandmandam 4y ago

While I generally agree, I think this is a late-stage capitalism problem more than a marketing problem. The fact that there are ads on every square inch, but jail time for graffiti artists, is a major clue that this is a bigger problem. What I'm trying to say is, marketing in its current incarnation is a symptom, not a cause. It's not a coincidence that we outsource all manufacturing to the cheapest bidder. Deforestation, acid oceans, wars for oil, kayfabe geopolitics, the anthropocene extinction, and all the other shit you'll never hear about on corporate news - they have the same root cause, which I think can be called late-stage capitalism.

cscurmudgeon 4y ago
There is a difference between ads and graffiti. One is voluntary and the other is not. Also, in places like California no one is going to jail for graffiti. > Deforestation, acid oceans, wars for oil, kayfabe geopolitics, the anthropocene extinction, and all the other shit you'll never hear about on corporate news - they have the same root cause, which I think can be called late-stage capitalism Thats an assertion you believe in. China has roughly 1/6th the global population, is communist controlled and has the same issues.
- sophacles 4y ago
  Imagine believing china isn't a capitalist country. I know their party is called "communist" but you can slap any label on anything. Next you'll probably try to tell me north korea is democratic because it's in the name. Or McD's all-beef patties are 100% dead cow.
  - cscurmudgeon 4y ago
    > Imagine believing china isn't a capitalist country Funnily, your sibling comment is praising China for being communist. So, what is China? Is it communist when good and capitalist when bad? The reality is communism always in life ALWAYS devolves to corrupt capitalism or a dictatorship and yet advocates and fans believe irrationally that next time will be different due to "reasons."

eli 4y ago

Bad marketing is bad. Good marketing you don't even necessarily perceive as marketing. This website is marketing for Y Combinator.