I'm not familiar with a definition of collective organizing that requires the conditions you describe, however I am fine with working with your definition. My

I'm not familiar with a definition of collective organizing that requires the conditions you describe, however I am fine with working with your definition. My comment (rather sarcastically) alludes to the fact that Apple employees are coming together and making a demand. It surprises me how many people will immediately shill for the employer's position and act shocked that employees would collectively ask for something. "Can't they just go work somewhere else?"