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Product looks great. I totally feel the need for new open-source-but-not-for-AWS-to-steal-my-product licenses; however I'm not sure about that vague license for

by CSDude 4y ago

Product looks great. I totally feel the need for new open-source-but-not-for-AWS-to-steal-my-product licenses; however I'm not sure about that vague license for database would work for you. A “Database Service” is a commercial offering that allows third parties (other than your employees and contractors) to access the functionality of the Licensed Work by creating tables whose schemas are controlled by such third parties. So, if as a service provider, I control the schemas can the customers query the data using your SQL? Can I just collect data, put them to database and proxy their SQL to DB? i.e I'm the co-founder of Resmo (https://www.resmo.com https://www.resmo.com) where we let customers run SQL on their cloud/saas assets configuration, can I use yours? The current wording seems to let me because we don't let any customer to define their schema, resources schemas are defined by us, for now.

gpm 4y ago
It's not obvious to me that they're trying to stop you. This reads as "AWS/GCP/Azure don't steal our work" while otherwise trying to be as wide a license grant as possible. I'm sure they'd love to sell you support services, but many of these database companies do that by convincing you there is additional value, instead of trying to use licenses. I think because licenses create a scary risk that the db company might increase prices or even stop offering them altogether and you have no real recourse.
jaimemh 4y ago
Thank you CSDude. We wanted SurrealDB to basically be open source, but with the only limitation of not being able to provide a Database as a Service platform. So in a business or enterprise use, there is no limit at all. You can run SurrealDB with as many nodes as you want, and as many users as you want; you can provide a hosted database internally, or to employees, contractors, or subsidiary companies. The only limitation is providing a paid-for, hosted, SurrealDB database platform. After 4 years, all of our code becomes licensed with Apache 2.0 license. In addition, all of our libraries, client SDKs, and many of our core components are completely Apache 2.0 or MIT licensed (https://surrealdb.com/opensource https://surrealdb.com/opensource). We have a whole page describing the license here: https://surrealdb.com/license https://surrealdb.com/license! We would definitely like to chat if you are interested in using SurrealDB!

by CSDude 4y ago

gpm 4y ago

It's not obvious to me that they're trying to stop you. This reads as "AWS/GCP/Azure don't steal our work" while otherwise trying to be as wide a license grant as possible. I'm sure they'd love to sell you support services, but many of these database companies do that by convincing you there is additional value, instead of trying to use licenses. I think because licenses create a scary risk that the db company might increase prices or even stop offering them altogether and you have no real recourse.

jaimemh 4y ago

Thank you CSDude. We wanted SurrealDB to basically be open source, but with the only limitation of not being able to provide a Database as a Service platform. So in a business or enterprise use, there is no limit at all. You can run SurrealDB with as many nodes as you want, and as many users as you want; you can provide a hosted database internally, or to employees, contractors, or subsidiary companies. The only limitation is providing a paid-for, hosted, SurrealDB database platform. After 4 years, all of our code becomes licensed with Apache 2.0 license. In addition, all of our libraries, client SDKs, and many of our core components are completely Apache 2.0 or MIT licensed (https://surrealdb.com/opensource https://surrealdb.com/opensource). We have a whole page describing the license here: https://surrealdb.com/license https://surrealdb.com/license! We would definitely like to chat if you are interested in using SurrealDB!