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This isn't true. "Fake news" is an imitation of news. News is what we all know news is. A product that presents information. There is entertainment news, celebr

This isn't true. "Fake news" is an imitation of news. News is what we all know news is. A product that presents information. There is entertainment news, celebrity news, movie news, music news. But "the news" is usually current events or politics. Everyone knows "fake news" means fake political news. An imitation of a format we all recognize. Pretending you cant tell the difference is "fake commenting". You are pretending to discuss coherence and truth and objectivity. But really you dont care. You aren't defending fake news on the merits. You are saying, "there isn't any such thing as news, so how can this other stuff be fake." Its crap and not a real comment. It isn't even an original thought.

mikece 4y ago
Simply having a scoop before everyone else can get you labeled as fake news. Happens almost daily in the world of sports news where some journalist reports on a tip that such-and-such player is going to be traded or is injured or going to be suspended but the official team PR people will deny it -- not because they are lying but because they simply don't know (yet). So in this case the team's official PR person denying the story causes the reported tip to be deemed "fake news" until the truth of the matter comes out later. My point in this example is that the accusation of fake news is by no means limited to politics or hard-news per se: it can apply to any situation where the speed at which people learn something happens at different speeds, especially before the official news/PR people for an organization even know.
- nh23423fefe 4y ago
  Why is that relevant? Why is the misapplication of a descriptive label somehow invalidating the aptness of the label in the correct context. Some ugly people are described as beautiful by some other people. Does that mean beauty doesn't exist? Yes some news is like gossip, why does that matter?
  - mikece 4y ago
    Because whether something is deemed to be "fake" can depend entirely on a subjective point of view. In fact it could be argued that it's more the rule than the exception that a subjective point of view determines what is fake.

mikece 4y ago

Simply having a scoop before everyone else can get you labeled as fake news. Happens almost daily in the world of sports news where some journalist reports on a tip that such-and-such player is going to be traded or is injured or going to be suspended but the official team PR people will deny it -- not because they are lying but because they simply don't know (yet). So in this case the team's official PR person denying the story causes the reported tip to be deemed "fake news" until the truth of the matter comes out later. My point in this example is that the accusation of fake news is by no means limited to politics or hard-news per se: it can apply to any situation where the speed at which people learn something happens at different speeds, especially before the official news/PR people for an organization even know.

nh23423fefe 4y ago
Why is that relevant? Why is the misapplication of a descriptive label somehow invalidating the aptness of the label in the correct context. Some ugly people are described as beautiful by some other people. Does that mean beauty doesn't exist? Yes some news is like gossip, why does that matter?
- mikece 4y ago
  Because whether something is deemed to be "fake" can depend entirely on a subjective point of view. In fact it could be argued that it's more the rule than the exception that a subjective point of view determines what is fake.