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It did. But recently, with Russian aggression, inflation and looming crisis, I've become the part of The Great Coming Back.

by badpun 4y ago

ak_111 4y ago
It is indeed expected that if asset prices collapse, the Great Unresignation might become a thing and in a very ugly way. An alternative more rosy scenario is that the Great Resignation becomes even more entrenched leading to a radical change in society such as 4-days week becoming normalised or mass support for UBI.
- frankbreetz 4y ago
  maybe the four day work week as a way to entice people back into the workforce, but there is no way UBI is going to be helped by the great resignation. You know all those people who just quit with no plan, they need money now, let's do UBI. Seems like a hard sell
- giantg2 4y ago
  Why would 4 day weeks become a thing? Why would UBI? I see the trend snapping in the "unresignation" direction before employers or society start the UBI or 4-day path.
  - WWLink 4y ago
    Yea some employers are already getting uppity like they expect the unresignation to happen lol.
  - ak_111 4y ago
    4-day week would be a thing for example when employers out of desperation for not being able to find workers start enticing borderline great resigners by 4-day week (so you get all the benefits of full time employment: health insurance, pensions,...). But this is assuming workers continue to have the upper hand.
    - giantg2 4y ago
      Maybe, but it seems most industries couldn't do it without a massive increase in workforce, but worker shortage is what they're trying to fight. Unless the entire industry switched to a 4 day week, I don't see it working out for most. I'm mostly thinking about places ties to central things like the stock exchange for banks, or that need 24/7 support like police and nursing, or where manufacturing wants the machines to run close to 24/7 to be economical efficient (since we struggle to compete already with LCOL abroad).
      - ak_111 4y ago
        Even if all your employees worked 4-days week doesn't mean your business opens only 4-days week. You simply ensure the amount of workers who are off on Monday is the same as the number of workers that are off on Friday. You only need to increase headcount by 20% if you make all your employees 4-days week. Which is a lot but not a "massive increase", especially you will be paying them 20% less each.
ak_111 4y ago
Why did you quit in the first place?
- badpun 4y ago
  I dislike software jobs and am biding my time in the industry. I though I have enough money to retire early, but now, in the new reality, came back to save a bit more before I leave for good.
  - mxuribe 4y ago
    I'm always curious to hear what industry/focus area you are/were considering to go to? I often half-joke with my partner, that maybe i will stop working as a technologist and become a motorcycle mechanic. So, what direction are/were you thinking of going to? EDIT: I should clarify that a job like motorcycle mechanic shoud not be perceived as a demaning job as compared to a technologist role...Rather, this is one job that i legitimately have an interest in...and one reason is becauase i feel that i can leverage my problem-solving skills but also the part of my brain that involves using my hands in a different way than typing and/or pulling network wires, etc. Side note: I owned a home for 22 years and learned along the way that i like "working with my hands". :-)
    - badpun 4y ago
      I didn’t have a clear direction. That was partially the reason I came back - it’s easy to listen to siren call of money when there’s little else pulling in the opposite direction. I currently have enough money to do nothing till I die (assuming I die before 90), but that doesn’t sound very satisfying either.
      - mxuribe 4y ago
        > ...I didn’t have a clear direction... Yeah, that's one issue that i have as well. While, yes, i mentioned motorcycle mechanic as one option for me, i have other directions which i can take...and just can't decide. Sadly, i lack the cushion that you made for yourself, so i feel like whatever directions i decide, i'll have to be careful, lest i get to my latter years a tad too poor to stop working full-time, etc. ;-)

It did. But recently, with Russian aggression, inflation and looming crisis, I've become the part of The Great Coming Back.

by badpun 4y ago

It did. But recently, with Russian aggression, inflation and looming crisis, I've become the part of The Great Coming Back.

ak_111 4y ago

It is indeed expected that if asset prices collapse, the Great Unresignation might become a thing and in a very ugly way. An alternative more rosy scenario is that the Great Resignation becomes even more entrenched leading to a radical change in society such as 4-days week becoming normalised or mass support for UBI.

frankbreetz 4y ago
maybe the four day work week as a way to entice people back into the workforce, but there is no way UBI is going to be helped by the great resignation. You know all those people who just quit with no plan, they need money now, let's do UBI. Seems like a hard sell
giantg2 4y ago
Why would 4 day weeks become a thing? Why would UBI? I see the trend snapping in the "unresignation" direction before employers or society start the UBI or 4-day path.
- WWLink 4y ago
  Yea some employers are already getting uppity like they expect the unresignation to happen lol.
- ak_111 4y ago
  4-day week would be a thing for example when employers out of desperation for not being able to find workers start enticing borderline great resigners by 4-day week (so you get all the benefits of full time employment: health insurance, pensions,...). But this is assuming workers continue to have the upper hand.
  - giantg2 4y ago
    Maybe, but it seems most industries couldn't do it without a massive increase in workforce, but worker shortage is what they're trying to fight. Unless the entire industry switched to a 4 day week, I don't see it working out for most. I'm mostly thinking about places ties to central things like the stock exchange for banks, or that need 24/7 support like police and nursing, or where manufacturing wants the machines to run close to 24/7 to be economical efficient (since we struggle to compete already with LCOL abroad).
    - ak_111 4y ago
      Even if all your employees worked 4-days week doesn't mean your business opens only 4-days week. You simply ensure the amount of workers who are off on Monday is the same as the number of workers that are off on Friday. You only need to increase headcount by 20% if you make all your employees 4-days week. Which is a lot but not a "massive increase", especially you will be paying them 20% less each.

ak_111 4y ago

Why did you quit in the first place?

badpun 4y ago
I dislike software jobs and am biding my time in the industry. I though I have enough money to retire early, but now, in the new reality, came back to save a bit more before I leave for good.
- mxuribe 4y ago
  I'm always curious to hear what industry/focus area you are/were considering to go to? I often half-joke with my partner, that maybe i will stop working as a technologist and become a motorcycle mechanic. So, what direction are/were you thinking of going to? EDIT: I should clarify that a job like motorcycle mechanic shoud not be perceived as a demaning job as compared to a technologist role...Rather, this is one job that i legitimately have an interest in...and one reason is becauase i feel that i can leverage my problem-solving skills but also the part of my brain that involves using my hands in a different way than typing and/or pulling network wires, etc. Side note: I owned a home for 22 years and learned along the way that i like "working with my hands". :-)
  - badpun 4y ago
    I didn’t have a clear direction. That was partially the reason I came back - it’s easy to listen to siren call of money when there’s little else pulling in the opposite direction. I currently have enough money to do nothing till I die (assuming I die before 90), but that doesn’t sound very satisfying either.
    - mxuribe 4y ago
      > ...I didn’t have a clear direction... Yeah, that's one issue that i have as well. While, yes, i mentioned motorcycle mechanic as one option for me, i have other directions which i can take...and just can't decide. Sadly, i lack the cushion that you made for yourself, so i feel like whatever directions i decide, i'll have to be careful, lest i get to my latter years a tad too poor to stop working full-time, etc. ;-)