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> FWIW, it is still possible to get TVs without this stuff, albeit at a premium. TVs are still made for business usage in areas like conference rooms, wall disp

> FWIW, it is still possible to get TVs without this stuff, albeit at a premium. TVs are still made for business usage in areas like conference rooms, wall displays etc. Do they have tuners? I've heard many of those are missing them.

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- mmmpop 4y ago
  The media has the best interests of emotionally-healthy people in mind. Just turn on some TV and relax.
  - _chu1 4y ago
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- tablespoon 4y ago
  > Do you want the propaganda piped directly into your living room? If I didn't, why would I have a TV at all? /s But you did a poor job of derailing a thread into one about you and your opinions that are only tenuously related to the topic. You should have mentioned how you "don't even own a TV" and how your choices are so much better than the sheeple's choices.
  - 9991 4y ago
    It’s like you know me.
cheschire 4y ago
If this is a major concern for you, I think you'll be happy to hear that tuners are ridiculously cheap, with built in recording capabilities for under $30. I suspect if you're in the market for one of these pricier TVs and willing to pay the premium then the extra cost for an external tuner unit will be not be a major factor. For cleanliness you can attach it to the rear of the TV and use short cables.
- tyingq 4y ago
  I'm very happy with the Tablo tuner + dvr device. You can place it near the antenna, since it has WiFi. Then, you use it from a Roku/FireTV/etc app. It's more than $30, but they do sell refurb models. And you connect your own storage device, so no markup on space.
  - tzs 4y ago
    Tablo looks interesting. I don't see any power consumption figures on their site, though. I'll have to contact them and see if they can tell me. My house sufficiently blocks TV signals that with an indoor antenna I only get a couple channels well, and a couple more intermittently. With an outdoor antenna I can get all those well plus several others. However the good places for an outdoor antenna from a reception point of view are terrible from a grounding point of view. So what I was thinking of doing is putting in an outdoor antenna but not having it electrically connected to the house. There would be either no ground or ground to a grounding rod at the antenna site that is not tied to the house ground, and the coax from the antenna would go to a weatherproof box near the antenna. The weatherproof box would contain something like a Tablo or Amazon Recast, and a battery powered power supply.
    - tyingq 4y ago
      The wall wart is 12V 2A, which would at least tell you the max draw.

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mmmpop 4y ago
The media has the best interests of emotionally-healthy people in mind. Just turn on some TV and relax.
- _chu1 4y ago
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tablespoon 4y ago
> Do you want the propaganda piped directly into your living room? If I didn't, why would I have a TV at all? /s But you did a poor job of derailing a thread into one about you and your opinions that are only tenuously related to the topic. You should have mentioned how you "don't even own a TV" and how your choices are so much better than the sheeple's choices.
- 9991 4y ago
  It’s like you know me.

cheschire 4y ago

If this is a major concern for you, I think you'll be happy to hear that tuners are ridiculously cheap, with built in recording capabilities for under $30. I suspect if you're in the market for one of these pricier TVs and willing to pay the premium then the extra cost for an external tuner unit will be not be a major factor. For cleanliness you can attach it to the rear of the TV and use short cables.

tyingq 4y ago
I'm very happy with the Tablo tuner + dvr device. You can place it near the antenna, since it has WiFi. Then, you use it from a Roku/FireTV/etc app. It's more than $30, but they do sell refurb models. And you connect your own storage device, so no markup on space.
- tzs 4y ago
  Tablo looks interesting. I don't see any power consumption figures on their site, though. I'll have to contact them and see if they can tell me. My house sufficiently blocks TV signals that with an indoor antenna I only get a couple channels well, and a couple more intermittently. With an outdoor antenna I can get all those well plus several others. However the good places for an outdoor antenna from a reception point of view are terrible from a grounding point of view. So what I was thinking of doing is putting in an outdoor antenna but not having it electrically connected to the house. There would be either no ground or ground to a grounding rod at the antenna site that is not tied to the house ground, and the coax from the antenna would go to a weatherproof box near the antenna. The weatherproof box would contain something like a Tablo or Amazon Recast, and a battery powered power supply.
  - tyingq 4y ago
    The wall wart is 12V 2A, which would at least tell you the max draw.