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That's what I thought we well, but TFA seems to suggest that some TVs may overlay ads on top of any video source: "Vizio collected a selection of pixels on the

by thunky 4y ago

That's what I thought we well, but TFA seems to suggest that some TVs may overlay ads on top of any video source: "Vizio collected a selection of pixels on the screen and matched them to an existing database of content to find out what a user was watching and when" "pop-ups would reportedly appear halfway through the show and be injected into the users' own content, such as home videos"

Daedren 4y ago
Yes, but the moment you plug in an Android dongle, Apple TV or similar, you can just disconnect the TV from the internet, which should solve this.
- xeromal 4y ago
  You're going to have to put it in a faraday cage when they start including modems into the TV. lol
  - Markoff 4y ago
    Two can play this game if they provide free SIM card they should expect people hacking and freeloading this built in SIM card.
    - xeromal 4y ago
      I'm sure 1% of their users will do that. I'm also sure they'll still make money from ads.
      - Markoff 4y ago
        I'd tend to think this 1% group overlaps a lot with HN readers skilled to do it.
delecti 4y ago
If the plan is to get a TV (irrespective of it including "smart" features) and then use your own external dongle, then you'd have to be crazy to connect the TV to the internet. I think that must have been an implied instruction in the comment you replied to. I got a very nice "smart" TV, plugged in my own inputs, and entirely ignored that the TV had its own apps. It works just as well as a "dumb" panel would have.
jasonjayr 4y ago
"Automatic Content Recognition" is scary, and seems to work regardless of the source of the image. https://www.bannertag.com/guide-to-automatic-content-recognition-acr-tech-in-smart-tvs/ https://www.bannertag.com/guide-to-automatic-content-recogni... I'm sure it's mentioned somewhere in the tome of text you agree to when you startup or unpack the tv. So clearly, everyone is okay with it. /s
- BitwiseFool 4y ago
  >"So clearly, everyone is okay with it. /s" Cue the responses confidently dismissing the issue because there is some convoluted setup involving additional hardware and network configuration that any consumer can surely set up if they don't like what these products are doing.

by thunky 4y ago

Daedren 4y ago

Yes, but the moment you plug in an Android dongle, Apple TV or similar, you can just disconnect the TV from the internet, which should solve this.

xeromal 4y ago
You're going to have to put it in a faraday cage when they start including modems into the TV. lol
- Markoff 4y ago
  Two can play this game if they provide free SIM card they should expect people hacking and freeloading this built in SIM card.
  - xeromal 4y ago
    I'm sure 1% of their users will do that. I'm also sure they'll still make money from ads.
    - Markoff 4y ago
      I'd tend to think this 1% group overlaps a lot with HN readers skilled to do it.

delecti 4y ago

If the plan is to get a TV (irrespective of it including "smart" features) and then use your own external dongle, then you'd have to be crazy to connect the TV to the internet. I think that must have been an implied instruction in the comment you replied to. I got a very nice "smart" TV, plugged in my own inputs, and entirely ignored that the TV had its own apps. It works just as well as a "dumb" panel would have.

jasonjayr 4y ago

"Automatic Content Recognition" is scary, and seems to work regardless of the source of the image. https://www.bannertag.com/guide-to-automatic-content-recognition-acr-tech-in-smart-tvs/ https://www.bannertag.com/guide-to-automatic-content-recogni... I'm sure it's mentioned somewhere in the tome of text you agree to when you startup or unpack the tv. So clearly, everyone is okay with it. /s

BitwiseFool 4y ago
>"So clearly, everyone is okay with it. /s" Cue the responses confidently dismissing the issue because there is some convoluted setup involving additional hardware and network configuration that any consumer can surely set up if they don't like what these products are doing.