> That's some wishful thinking if I've ever seen it. I said we can kill them humanely and there are slaughterhouses that enforce good practices. I didn't say a

> That's some wishful thinking if I've ever seen it. I said we can kill them humanely and there are slaughterhouses that enforce good practices. I didn't say all animals are killed humanely and I didn't say we should favor the worst of the factory farming practices. They often produce substandard meat anyways. I don't think meat should be as cheap as possible but I also don't think it should be made so expensive that no one can afford it. So, yes there should be more regulation around how animals are raised and slaughtered in order to prevent cruelty and that will likely increase prices of meat and I'm ok with that. We should also do more to make sure that small producers aren't forced out of business by large factory farming interests since that's what's driving this race to the bottom and degradation of conditions. > turns out that if you do that excessively That's plainly a strawman argument. I didn't say we should be 100% carnivorous or eat excessive quantities of meat or spend 100% of our time hunting. It's also an argument against being 100% vegetarian by the way so you might want to be careful tossing it around. > There is no screaming to be heard at the supermarket checkout If your goal is to kill the animal humanely then there shouldn't be any screaming in the slaughterhouse either. As I said above, there are certainly many slaughterhouses where the animals are mistreated but I don't support this and think it should be regulated against.