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Media doesn't report good things that happen in the environment. From 2013-2019, they hammered constantly on how the Great Barrier Reef was dying. But, not a pe

Media doesn't report good things that happen in the environment. From 2013-2019, they hammered constantly on how the Great Barrier Reef was dying. But, not a peep when they found that it is healthiest its ever been in recent history: https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/parts-australias-great-barrier-reef-show-highest-coral-cover-36-years-2022-08-04/ https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/parts-australia... No wonder the trust in media has fallen to the lowest. Reuters/AP are informative as a root source, but I have stopped trusting environmentalist doom-and-gloom stories from MSM. Environment is going to get far worse though. Germany is busy burning the shittiest form of coal as its primary fuel (35%): Lignite coal with 1/5th water content. It is the worse than burning literally anything: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Germany Again, thanks to the utterly idiotic emotionally-driven environmentalists that are going to make the planet worse ironically. We need to stop giving them fodder and look to the tech/engineering community for solutions.

throwanapple 4y ago
Regarding the Great Barrier Reef, it's not as simple as you're saying: https://theconversation.com/record-coral-cover-doesnt-necessarily-mean-the-great-barrier-reef-is-in-good-health-despite-what-you-may-have-heard-188233 https://theconversation.com/record-coral-cover-doesnt-necess...
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  Maybe, why is this source trustworthy, I have no idea. There are probably many examples of improvement in the environment that goes unreported. I used to trust climate science. That trust is being eroded for me. Just the other day, someone reported that kids are gaining weight due to climate change. The reason? They can’t go out and play when it’s 2 deg C hotter. Come on. I despise climate catastrophization by the media.
  - Joeri 4y ago
    Media reporting on climate change is often dramatically wrong, whether it takes the slant of “everything is terrible” or “things are actually great”. Go read how the IPCC reports are authored, you’ll hopefully develop some faith about the accuracy of what is in them. Then go read the summaries for policy makers to get an idea of what they say. You’ll see that most of what both sides are saying is in there is not what is in there.
Karrot_Kream 4y ago
I'm active in my community advocating for greater transit and modeshare and our transit advocacy network is much better at trumpeting good news than the MSM and many Twitter doomers for a simple reason: nobody will give us more funding until we tell them how $X was spent on initiative Y which led to great outcome Z. It's our job to tell everyone how this little bike lane in this neighborhood decreased car trips and increased safety. The MSM faces no existential risk when it trumpets bad news all day, but we have to convince our neighbors that the money they're spending or the traffic blockage they're facing as new infrastructure is built is worthwhile.
adrianN 4y ago
As far as I know the barrier reef is already dead because we emitted enough GHG to force sufficiently high water temperatures that the reef can't survive. It's only a matter of a couple of decades before the temperatures catch up with our emissions.
mypastself 4y ago
Wouldn’t environmentalists be opposed to coal as well? Or is it simply that they favor it over nuclear power? I’m not particularly well acquainted with German green parties’ policies.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  They are. But when they’ve cornered themselves into freezing this winter, lignite coal it is.
  - adrianN 4y ago
    Homes are not heated with nuclear power or lignite, they are heated with gas.
    - systemvoltage 4y ago
      Gas is at risk of cut off this winter. Electric heating will be the primary source if that happens. > In late June, after Russia reduced supplies by 60%, Berlin triggered the second stage of its national gas emergency plan — one step away from gas rationing. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/07/18/a-german-gas-crisis-will-cause-jitters-across-europe/ https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/07/18/a...
      - adrianN 4y ago
        Electrical heating is impossible. There is neither sufficient generation, nor sufficient grid capacity, so matter how many of the nuclear plants we had we keep running. Even in a mostly-nuclear grid like France's you just don't have the spare capacity lying around to replace fossil fuels for heating in a year.
        modo_mario 4y ago
        Heating homes with conventional electric heatpumps is a pipe dream but underground heat pumps which are getting more common can be really efficient no?

throwanapple 4y ago

Regarding the Great Barrier Reef, it's not as simple as you're saying: https://theconversation.com/record-coral-cover-doesnt-necessarily-mean-the-great-barrier-reef-is-in-good-health-despite-what-you-may-have-heard-188233 https://theconversation.com/record-coral-cover-doesnt-necess...

systemvoltage 4y ago
Maybe, why is this source trustworthy, I have no idea. There are probably many examples of improvement in the environment that goes unreported. I used to trust climate science. That trust is being eroded for me. Just the other day, someone reported that kids are gaining weight due to climate change. The reason? They can’t go out and play when it’s 2 deg C hotter. Come on. I despise climate catastrophization by the media.
- Joeri 4y ago
  Media reporting on climate change is often dramatically wrong, whether it takes the slant of “everything is terrible” or “things are actually great”. Go read how the IPCC reports are authored, you’ll hopefully develop some faith about the accuracy of what is in them. Then go read the summaries for policy makers to get an idea of what they say. You’ll see that most of what both sides are saying is in there is not what is in there.

Karrot_Kream 4y ago

I'm active in my community advocating for greater transit and modeshare and our transit advocacy network is much better at trumpeting good news than the MSM and many Twitter doomers for a simple reason: nobody will give us more funding until we tell them how $X was spent on initiative Y which led to great outcome Z. It's our job to tell everyone how this little bike lane in this neighborhood decreased car trips and increased safety. The MSM faces no existential risk when it trumpets bad news all day, but we have to convince our neighbors that the money they're spending or the traffic blockage they're facing as new infrastructure is built is worthwhile.

adrianN 4y ago

As far as I know the barrier reef is already dead because we emitted enough GHG to force sufficiently high water temperatures that the reef can't survive. It's only a matter of a couple of decades before the temperatures catch up with our emissions.

mypastself 4y ago

Wouldn’t environmentalists be opposed to coal as well? Or is it simply that they favor it over nuclear power? I’m not particularly well acquainted with German green parties’ policies.

systemvoltage 4y ago
They are. But when they’ve cornered themselves into freezing this winter, lignite coal it is.
- adrianN 4y ago
  Homes are not heated with nuclear power or lignite, they are heated with gas.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    Gas is at risk of cut off this winter. Electric heating will be the primary source if that happens. > In late June, after Russia reduced supplies by 60%, Berlin triggered the second stage of its national gas emergency plan — one step away from gas rationing. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/07/18/a-german-gas-crisis-will-cause-jitters-across-europe/ https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/07/18/a...
    - adrianN 4y ago
      Electrical heating is impossible. There is neither sufficient generation, nor sufficient grid capacity, so matter how many of the nuclear plants we had we keep running. Even in a mostly-nuclear grid like France's you just don't have the spare capacity lying around to replace fossil fuels for heating in a year.
      - modo_mario 4y ago
        Heating homes with conventional electric heatpumps is a pipe dream but underground heat pumps which are getting more common can be really efficient no?