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The GPU Banana Stand

166 points by robin_reala 4y ago

rektide 4y ago
I'd really really like to see 3d content start making it's way into the DOM. (Ideally in manners far far far far beyond showing one lone hovering item, as per Apple's <model> proposal.) Seeing Steven use his Live library to provide such an implementation should be utterly unsurprising. His past works have been so exemplary & leading-edge: mathbox, TermKit, Live itself, & others. Live was an interesting exploration of what grounds really lay underfoot the latest emerged React patterns (hooks), with lots of new capabilities, and seeing it applied to such a holy grail of an idea (3d via dom) is thrilling to see. > Live goes far beyond the usual React semantics, introducing continuations, tree reductions, captures, and more There's a ton of incredible wonkery here. As usual for Steven, he's chased incredibly far reaching frontiers, applying this hyper-advanced computing toolkit to 3d, then hunting down a series of hard problems/demos to make expident work out of. The article talks to a lot of specific frontiers, but the "general" work of the underlying Live library (and it's tour-de-force proof-of-value by creating Use.GPU out of it) is quite the distillation of computing into a consolidated, clear form: > The result is a tree of functions which is simultaneously: 1. an execution trace 2. the application state 3. a dependency graph of that state Hardly the point, but one thing I'd like a little more affirmative on, to see more clearly- where my desires & Steven's intents might be mis-aligned is- what would it look like rendering environments & spaces here? Can this "dsl for dsls" help us craft landscapes, houses, & actors inside? What do situated spaces look like in this environment, if we can pull that off? Can we represent space in the DOM?
- cercatrova 4y ago
  Have you seen what react-three-fiber is doing? https://docs.pmnd.rs/react-three-fiber/getting-started/examples https://docs.pmnd.rs/react-three-fiber/getting-started/examp... https://twitter.com/0xca0a https://twitter.com/0xca0a (the creator, who has some examples as well)
  - rektide 4y ago
    Good example! I was trying to use A-frame a bit back, another contender. https://aframe.io/ https://aframe.io/ Somewhat ashamed to admit, I fell on my face a couple times trying to get the legacy cjs modules building with a couple toolchains & put my 3d web projects back in deep-freeze. https://github.com/aframevr/aframe/issues/3732 https://github.com/aframevr/aframe/issues/3732 Briefly, it does make me a bit sad that React isn't the real dom. I doubt very much any of these solutions make the content actually available in view-source. Which, like, 10 years ago would get you 20 lashings for bad behavior. Now-a-days? Normal, react & elsewhere. Un-page content is anti-user.
- rambojazz 4y ago
  Browsers are resource hogs, I'm not sure I'd want any 3D content more than is necessary. CSS alone is capable of hogging my CPU at 100%
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    Not just that: few people are Steve Wittens or Farbrausch vetted, most are bewilderingly contented with the ugly and deformed. Even among professionals, and with decades long evidence. See for example the adoption of 3d in online maps, that brought from "good as expected" to "utterly unwatchable, unusable" (and it is fortunate that you can still access the past versions). And that is the big 'G', with nobody able to note, "look - and do look -, this is an unacceptable result". Normally you need good illustrators and artists: with some approaches you need much better illustrators, artists and taste. Related: a few weeks ago StackOverflow came out with a visual filter that made the page psychedelic, in the wrongest way. ...As a feature.
    - rambojazz 4y ago
      I didn't notice any psychedelic filter? Where can I see it?
  - exodontist 4y ago
    Most consumer machines have a literal supercomputer sitting mostly idle as you browse the web. Css is slow because it was designed for cpus and css doesn't map to gpus very cleanly. But Webgl/webgpu enable some incredible things.
- dakom 4y ago
  The problem imho is bandwidth. Unless you are iq or similar, creating geometry and textures from thin-air with pure math is just not possible, so you need to load 3d models, which are much heavier than their html/png counterparts. For individual models, like if you browse sketchfab, it's not such a big deal if the artist optimized things to be "game-ready", but for full environments, it's a problem, especially as audience expectations are influenced by what they see with multi-gigabyte assets on standalone games and simulations. I don't think this is a complete showstopper, like 10-20 years ago we had the same problem with 2d games and Flash, but as long as the experience was compelling enough and the preloader wasn't completely boring, people waited, but there has been a shift towards wanting things to be instantaneous on the web (e.g. video with adaptive bitrate switching, blurry but instant > sharp but buffered) Anyway, I guess my point is I don't think it's exactly a technical limitation of programming, as much as a conflict between audience expectations and wait time
  - MrLeap 4y ago
    Signed distance fields _are not that bad_ (thank you Inigo Quilez) Once you have your primitives, it becomes basic math and union, subtraction, intersection for the most part. I made this shader a few days after learning the basics -> https://twitter.com/LeapJosh/status/1494417750395179012 https://twitter.com/LeapJosh/status/1494417750395179012 If glsl ever got function pointers or similar, you'd see simple SDF DSLs and frameworks bloom overnight and many of them would be easy and awesome.
    - bluescrn 4y ago
      Raymarching ever-more-complex mathematical functions is neat if you're creating a demo out of curiosity or for art's sake. But it's a very expensive and not-very-scalable method of rendering things, certainly not a replacement for meshes of triangles.
      - wwwtyro 4y ago
        Shameless plug - I wrote sdf-csg[1] as an attempt to have that cake and eat it too. Basically, build things out of SDFs, then create meshes out of them for efficient rendering. [1] https://github.com/wwwtyro/sdf-csg https://github.com/wwwtyro/sdf-csg
- baybal2 4y ago
- dmitriid 4y ago
  > Can we represent space in the DOM? Why would you want to represent this in DOM, of all places? It's uniquely unsuited for anything that's not a few paragraphs of text with a few images.
  - rektide 4y ago
    > Why would you want to represent this in DOM, of all places? It's uniquely unsuited for anything that's not a few paragraphs of text with a few images. Your negative bias is showing. That's, just, like, your opinion man. One built around disdain & dislike, and not generally shared. There's no books that publish that opinion. You don't find that limited view abundant in trade publications. Use.GPU is here to enable 3D via the DOM, and is proof positive that this declarative setup is highly powerful. The heirarchical/acyclic-graph structure more than passingly resembles a scene-graph, which is ultra-common in 3d. Since the hierarchy is apparent, bindings all just work: > The shader snippets will end up inlined in the right places with all the right bindings, so you can just go nuts. This is just Use.GPU. It's a huge step up the vast amounts of rote work required to set up bindings in modern vulkan & 3d in general. Barely the tip of the ice-berg. As I said, Use.GPU is a tour-de-force demonstration of the value of Live, which is a much more general & competent way of representing compute on the DOM. Steven calls Live a DSL for DSLs; a small language which can keep representing more, all with common structure & form of the DOM language underneath, a much higher level base for computing that escapes much reinvention along the way. Steven touches numerous times across Live write-ups & this article about how the shape of the DOM is ultra-close to that of Lisp, another blissfully homoiconic computing representation known for it's flexible means of assembling compute. > Along the way Live has gained actual bona-fide <Quote> and <Unquote> operators, to drive this recursive <Reconcile>. This means Use.GPU now neatly sidesteps Greenspun's law by containing a complete and well-specified version of a Lisp. Score I think it's under-ambitious to stop at just Space, and that the DOM's S-exp like nature is a powerful & advanced tool for representing all manners of things. Outside of Steven's work, there's plenty of other material. Work like React-Router are extremely clear & direct means of expressing routing/addressability concerns, far cleaner than any other toolkit I've seen. I invite everyone to keep an open mind, and try to use their brain to escape the limited preconceptions they already know, & to explore openly & with active regard, looking for potential. I think the potential for the DOM is high.
- czottmann 4y ago
  > I'd really really like to see 3d content start making it's way into the DOM. There's a lot of overlap w/ HTML5-native game development. If you're interested in that, pay https://github.com/hmans https://github.com/hmans a visit and take a look at his projects (RenderComposer, ShaderComposer, VFXComposer etc.). Nothing short of amazing!
eyelidlessness 4y ago
I’m gonna come back and read this more thoroughly, I’m leaving this comment so I make sure I do: I think this is the best example of JSX as a malleable DSL I’ve encountered. Not because it’s any more novel than several other JSX use cases, but because it explicitly articulates why it’s so adaptable. Particularly likening it to lisp, which I think many people partial to it recognize but seldom say directly.
- duhast1337 4y ago
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Nition 4y ago
Steven made the Whacko AVS packs for Winamp back in the day under the name UnConeD, which were easily the most impressive visualizations I ever saw in AVS. He has them all for download on the website[1]. You could always see the source code, and I remember as a teenager trying to pick them apart to see how they worked. It seemed so much more advanced than what everyone else was doing. Other packs would have pretty waveforms. Whacko AVS had, as just one example, a spaceship flying through hyperspace in a storm - and it still reacted to the music! Justin Frankel, the creator of AVS (and Winamp itself), now makes Reaper, one of the world's best DAWs. [1] https://acko.net/blog/avs/ https://acko.net/blog/avs/
- exodontist 4y ago
  - snakeboy 4y ago
    I don't know him, so I took a quick look. It looks like he was against some of the mandatory COVID measures. I don't really understand the point of you trying to call out his politics here. It's not the topic at-hand, and his views are hardly outside the mainstream, and at a first glance don't seem to be hateful or bigoted. So can't we just stick to the topic, and agree to disagree instead of trying to wholesale imply this guy holds "sus" (i.e. "not acceptable") views?
    - throwaway64052 4y ago
    - Kiro 4y ago
      Sus doesn't mean "not acceptable". Anyway, "against some mandatory measures" is an understatement. He's literally an antivaxxer and it's not just about COVID. E.g.: https://twitter.com/unconed/status/1558063608772366337 https://twitter.com/unconed/status/1558063608772366337 You don't have to go far back in his Twitter timeline to also see him bashing the trans movement, green energy and Ukraine. He's definitely hateful and bigoted. Notch was cancelled for less.
ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago
My Atom Z3745 really does not like that link.
joshspankit 4y ago
> ...the same way that there was money in that banana stand. I don't know how to be any clearer than this. I have a feeling that this is a joke that’s either extremely clever or a reference I have not been exposed to. Can anyone help me out?
- Tenoke 4y ago
  If you copy paste the quote you pasted here into Google instead you'll find it's a meme from Arrested Development.
- deleted 4y ago
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- smcl 4y ago
  (spoilers, I highly recommend Arrested Development - there's only a few seasons and it's very funny. So if you want to see the payoff of the joke live and unspoiled, skip my comment and watch the show) It's a running joke from Arrested Development - a comedy about a family running a property empire that was heavily involved on fraud and in the process of collapsing. The (jailed) patriarch of the family - George Bluth - made some seemingly off-hand references to a frozen banana stand the family still operated - saying "There's always money in the banana stand". These were misunderstood as meaning "The banana stand still makes some money" and dismissed, when they were meant to mean "I have hidden $250,000 in the walls of the banana stand"
  - cardy31 4y ago
    Major Spoilers The show’s main protagonist, Michael, burns down the banana stand as a symbol of no longer putting up with his father’s influence. His father then told him of the cash in the walls of the banana stand. Highly recommend the show.
- JimiofEden 4y ago
  It's a reference to the second episode of the TV show Arrested Development. A recurring line about a boardwalk stall the company owns: "There's always money in the Banana Stand."
almostdigital 4y ago
Love this blog, I get the "Dat Parallax" achievement every time I visit :D
Theodores 4y ago
Rarely have I been so quick to bookmark a page. This is inspired. Bravo.
nchase 4y ago
This reminds me of react-three-fiber[1], which is built on top of Three.js. react-three-fiber is a really nice way to build 3-d scenes on the web for those of us who aren't skilled in graphics and GPU programming. Looks like Three.js supports WebGPU rendering now. Naively, I wonder how performance differs between UseGPU and R3F with Three's WebGPU renderer. [1]: https://github.com/pmndrs/react-three-fiber https://github.com/pmndrs/react-three-fiber
- czottmann 4y ago
  If you're into R3F, check out what https://github.com/hmans https://github.com/hmans is doing on top of it (RenderComposer, ShaderComposer, VFXComposer etc.). Black magic!
eole666 4y ago
I don't really see the point of making something so low level accessible from HTML. Or maybe I underestimate how much React made people love using declarative/reactive programming for everything ? React and Vue integration of ThreeJS or BabylonJS seems more suitable for people wanting to simply add some 3D things to their page using DOM elements and the react/vue syntax. But this project is still really cool ! Maybe I'm just old and it will find a great user base.
- panzerklein 4y ago
  It's not really HTML, it's JSX. Like in all other JSX-based projects it gets compiled into js functions.

166 points by robin_reala 4y ago

I'd really really like to see 3d content start making it's way into the DOM. (Ideally in manners far far far far beyond showing one lone hovering item, as per Apple's <model> proposal.) Seeing Steven use his Live library to provide such an implementation should be utterly unsurprising. His past works have been so exemplary & leading-edge: mathbox, TermKit, Live itself, & others. Live was an interesting exploration of what grounds really lay underfoot the latest emerged React patterns (hooks), with lots of new capabilities, and seeing it applied to such a holy grail of an idea (3d via dom) is thrilling to see. > Live goes far beyond the usual React semantics, introducing continuations, tree reductions, captures, and more There's a ton of incredible wonkery here. As usual for Steven, he's chased incredibly far reaching frontiers, applying this hyper-advanced computing toolkit to 3d, then hunting down a series of hard problems/demos to make expident work out of. The article talks to a lot of specific frontiers, but the "general" work of the underlying Live library (and it's tour-de-force proof-of-value by creating Use.GPU out of it) is quite the distillation of computing into a consolidated, clear form: > The result is a tree of functions which is simultaneously: 1. an execution trace 2. the application state 3. a dependency graph of that state Hardly the point, but one thing I'd like a little more affirmative on, to see more clearly- where my desires & Steven's intents might be mis-aligned is- what would it look like rendering environments & spaces here? Can this "dsl for dsls" help us craft landscapes, houses, & actors inside? What do situated spaces look like in this environment, if we can pull that off? Can we represent space in the DOM?

cercatrova 4y ago
Have you seen what react-three-fiber is doing? https://docs.pmnd.rs/react-three-fiber/getting-started/examples https://docs.pmnd.rs/react-three-fiber/getting-started/examp... https://twitter.com/0xca0a https://twitter.com/0xca0a (the creator, who has some examples as well)
- rektide 4y ago
  Good example! I was trying to use A-frame a bit back, another contender. https://aframe.io/ https://aframe.io/ Somewhat ashamed to admit, I fell on my face a couple times trying to get the legacy cjs modules building with a couple toolchains & put my 3d web projects back in deep-freeze. https://github.com/aframevr/aframe/issues/3732 https://github.com/aframevr/aframe/issues/3732 Briefly, it does make me a bit sad that React isn't the real dom. I doubt very much any of these solutions make the content actually available in view-source. Which, like, 10 years ago would get you 20 lashings for bad behavior. Now-a-days? Normal, react & elsewhere. Un-page content is anti-user.
rambojazz 4y ago
Browsers are resource hogs, I'm not sure I'd want any 3D content more than is necessary. CSS alone is capable of hogging my CPU at 100%
- mdp2021 4y ago
  Not just that: few people are Steve Wittens or Farbrausch vetted, most are bewilderingly contented with the ugly and deformed. Even among professionals, and with decades long evidence. See for example the adoption of 3d in online maps, that brought from "good as expected" to "utterly unwatchable, unusable" (and it is fortunate that you can still access the past versions). And that is the big 'G', with nobody able to note, "look - and do look -, this is an unacceptable result". Normally you need good illustrators and artists: with some approaches you need much better illustrators, artists and taste. Related: a few weeks ago StackOverflow came out with a visual filter that made the page psychedelic, in the wrongest way. ...As a feature.
  - rambojazz 4y ago
    I didn't notice any psychedelic filter? Where can I see it?
- exodontist 4y ago
  Most consumer machines have a literal supercomputer sitting mostly idle as you browse the web. Css is slow because it was designed for cpus and css doesn't map to gpus very cleanly. But Webgl/webgpu enable some incredible things.
dakom 4y ago
The problem imho is bandwidth. Unless you are iq or similar, creating geometry and textures from thin-air with pure math is just not possible, so you need to load 3d models, which are much heavier than their html/png counterparts. For individual models, like if you browse sketchfab, it's not such a big deal if the artist optimized things to be "game-ready", but for full environments, it's a problem, especially as audience expectations are influenced by what they see with multi-gigabyte assets on standalone games and simulations. I don't think this is a complete showstopper, like 10-20 years ago we had the same problem with 2d games and Flash, but as long as the experience was compelling enough and the preloader wasn't completely boring, people waited, but there has been a shift towards wanting things to be instantaneous on the web (e.g. video with adaptive bitrate switching, blurry but instant > sharp but buffered) Anyway, I guess my point is I don't think it's exactly a technical limitation of programming, as much as a conflict between audience expectations and wait time
- MrLeap 4y ago
  Signed distance fields _are not that bad_ (thank you Inigo Quilez) Once you have your primitives, it becomes basic math and union, subtraction, intersection for the most part. I made this shader a few days after learning the basics -> https://twitter.com/LeapJosh/status/1494417750395179012 https://twitter.com/LeapJosh/status/1494417750395179012 If glsl ever got function pointers or similar, you'd see simple SDF DSLs and frameworks bloom overnight and many of them would be easy and awesome.
  - bluescrn 4y ago
    Raymarching ever-more-complex mathematical functions is neat if you're creating a demo out of curiosity or for art's sake. But it's a very expensive and not-very-scalable method of rendering things, certainly not a replacement for meshes of triangles.
    - wwwtyro 4y ago
      Shameless plug - I wrote sdf-csg[1] as an attempt to have that cake and eat it too. Basically, build things out of SDFs, then create meshes out of them for efficient rendering. [1] https://github.com/wwwtyro/sdf-csg https://github.com/wwwtyro/sdf-csg
baybal2 4y ago
dmitriid 4y ago
> Can we represent space in the DOM? Why would you want to represent this in DOM, of all places? It's uniquely unsuited for anything that's not a few paragraphs of text with a few images.
- rektide 4y ago
  > Why would you want to represent this in DOM, of all places? It's uniquely unsuited for anything that's not a few paragraphs of text with a few images. Your negative bias is showing. That's, just, like, your opinion man. One built around disdain & dislike, and not generally shared. There's no books that publish that opinion. You don't find that limited view abundant in trade publications. Use.GPU is here to enable 3D via the DOM, and is proof positive that this declarative setup is highly powerful. The heirarchical/acyclic-graph structure more than passingly resembles a scene-graph, which is ultra-common in 3d. Since the hierarchy is apparent, bindings all just work: > The shader snippets will end up inlined in the right places with all the right bindings, so you can just go nuts. This is just Use.GPU. It's a huge step up the vast amounts of rote work required to set up bindings in modern vulkan & 3d in general. Barely the tip of the ice-berg. As I said, Use.GPU is a tour-de-force demonstration of the value of Live, which is a much more general & competent way of representing compute on the DOM. Steven calls Live a DSL for DSLs; a small language which can keep representing more, all with common structure & form of the DOM language underneath, a much higher level base for computing that escapes much reinvention along the way. Steven touches numerous times across Live write-ups & this article about how the shape of the DOM is ultra-close to that of Lisp, another blissfully homoiconic computing representation known for it's flexible means of assembling compute. > Along the way Live has gained actual bona-fide <Quote> and <Unquote> operators, to drive this recursive <Reconcile>. This means Use.GPU now neatly sidesteps Greenspun's law by containing a complete and well-specified version of a Lisp. Score I think it's under-ambitious to stop at just Space, and that the DOM's S-exp like nature is a powerful & advanced tool for representing all manners of things. Outside of Steven's work, there's plenty of other material. Work like React-Router are extremely clear & direct means of expressing routing/addressability concerns, far cleaner than any other toolkit I've seen. I invite everyone to keep an open mind, and try to use their brain to escape the limited preconceptions they already know, & to explore openly & with active regard, looking for potential. I think the potential for the DOM is high.
czottmann 4y ago
> I'd really really like to see 3d content start making it's way into the DOM. There's a lot of overlap w/ HTML5-native game development. If you're interested in that, pay https://github.com/hmans https://github.com/hmans a visit and take a look at his projects (RenderComposer, ShaderComposer, VFXComposer etc.). Nothing short of amazing!

eyelidlessness 4y ago

I’m gonna come back and read this more thoroughly, I’m leaving this comment so I make sure I do: I think this is the best example of JSX as a malleable DSL I’ve encountered. Not because it’s any more novel than several other JSX use cases, but because it explicitly articulates why it’s so adaptable. Particularly likening it to lisp, which I think many people partial to it recognize but seldom say directly.

duhast1337 4y ago
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deleted 4y ago
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Nition 4y ago

Steven made the Whacko AVS packs for Winamp back in the day under the name UnConeD, which were easily the most impressive visualizations I ever saw in AVS. He has them all for download on the website[1]. You could always see the source code, and I remember as a teenager trying to pick them apart to see how they worked. It seemed so much more advanced than what everyone else was doing. Other packs would have pretty waveforms. Whacko AVS had, as just one example, a spaceship flying through hyperspace in a storm - and it still reacted to the music! Justin Frankel, the creator of AVS (and Winamp itself), now makes Reaper, one of the world's best DAWs. [1] https://acko.net/blog/avs/ https://acko.net/blog/avs/

exodontist 4y ago
- snakeboy 4y ago
  I don't know him, so I took a quick look. It looks like he was against some of the mandatory COVID measures. I don't really understand the point of you trying to call out his politics here. It's not the topic at-hand, and his views are hardly outside the mainstream, and at a first glance don't seem to be hateful or bigoted. So can't we just stick to the topic, and agree to disagree instead of trying to wholesale imply this guy holds "sus" (i.e. "not acceptable") views?
  - throwaway64052 4y ago
  - Kiro 4y ago
    Sus doesn't mean "not acceptable". Anyway, "against some mandatory measures" is an understatement. He's literally an antivaxxer and it's not just about COVID. E.g.: https://twitter.com/unconed/status/1558063608772366337 https://twitter.com/unconed/status/1558063608772366337 You don't have to go far back in his Twitter timeline to also see him bashing the trans movement, green energy and Ukraine. He's definitely hateful and bigoted. Notch was cancelled for less.

ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago

My Atom Z3745 really does not like that link.

joshspankit 4y ago

> ...the same way that there was money in that banana stand. I don't know how to be any clearer than this. I have a feeling that this is a joke that’s either extremely clever or a reference I have not been exposed to. Can anyone help me out?

Tenoke 4y ago
If you copy paste the quote you pasted here into Google instead you'll find it's a meme from Arrested Development.
deleted 4y ago
[deleted]
smcl 4y ago
(spoilers, I highly recommend Arrested Development - there's only a few seasons and it's very funny. So if you want to see the payoff of the joke live and unspoiled, skip my comment and watch the show) It's a running joke from Arrested Development - a comedy about a family running a property empire that was heavily involved on fraud and in the process of collapsing. The (jailed) patriarch of the family - George Bluth - made some seemingly off-hand references to a frozen banana stand the family still operated - saying "There's always money in the banana stand". These were misunderstood as meaning "The banana stand still makes some money" and dismissed, when they were meant to mean "I have hidden $250,000 in the walls of the banana stand"
- cardy31 4y ago
  Major Spoilers The show’s main protagonist, Michael, burns down the banana stand as a symbol of no longer putting up with his father’s influence. His father then told him of the cash in the walls of the banana stand. Highly recommend the show.
JimiofEden 4y ago
It's a reference to the second episode of the TV show Arrested Development. A recurring line about a boardwalk stall the company owns: "There's always money in the Banana Stand."

almostdigital 4y ago

Love this blog, I get the "Dat Parallax" achievement every time I visit :D

Theodores 4y ago

Rarely have I been so quick to bookmark a page. This is inspired. Bravo.

nchase 4y ago

This reminds me of react-three-fiber[1], which is built on top of Three.js. react-three-fiber is a really nice way to build 3-d scenes on the web for those of us who aren't skilled in graphics and GPU programming. Looks like Three.js supports WebGPU rendering now. Naively, I wonder how performance differs between UseGPU and R3F with Three's WebGPU renderer. [1]: https://github.com/pmndrs/react-three-fiber https://github.com/pmndrs/react-three-fiber

czottmann 4y ago
If you're into R3F, check out what https://github.com/hmans https://github.com/hmans is doing on top of it (RenderComposer, ShaderComposer, VFXComposer etc.). Black magic!

eole666 4y ago

I don't really see the point of making something so low level accessible from HTML. Or maybe I underestimate how much React made people love using declarative/reactive programming for everything ? React and Vue integration of ThreeJS or BabylonJS seems more suitable for people wanting to simply add some 3D things to their page using DOM elements and the react/vue syntax. But this project is still really cool ! Maybe I'm just old and it will find a great user base.

panzerklein 4y ago
It's not really HTML, it's JSX. Like in all other JSX-based projects it gets compiled into js functions.