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I have the male to male cable; though I keep one in my wife's car, too. As for pairing with the bluetooth 1. In the cases I'm talking about, I want to use head

I have the male to male cable; though I keep one in my wife's car, too. As for pairing with the bluetooth 1. In the cases I'm talking about, I want to use headphones + a USB-C charger. 2. I don't like bluetooth for sound; it's inferior in every single case I've tried. 3. I have yet to be able to configure things so bluetooth is used for media/music, but not for phone calls. And I don't want to use the car/speakerphone for phone calls when I'm in someone else's car. Look, I get it.. with _enough_ adapters and random other things, I can jump through a dozen different hoops in order to get music out of phone. But life would be a lot simpler and easier if I just had a headphone jack. Only they removed it, and now I'm stuck with an objectively [1] worse experience. [1] Yes, objectively; because prior to that I had both bluetooth AND a headphone jack. So there's no positive aspect of removing the jack. It is objectively worse to not have it.

nl 4y ago
So you are prepared to carry a male-to-male cable around for this one particular case but not prepared to carry a much smaller USB-C to headphone adapter which literally solves every single problem you have listed in this entire thread? I just don't understand the reasoning. > So there's no positive aspect of removing the jack. It is objectively worse to not have it The benefits of removing the jack form the phone are clear: less connectors mean simpler and cheaper manufacture (so cheaper devices) and larger batteries/smaller phones.
- whatarethembits 4y ago
  Any cost saving from reducing connectors haven’t reached consumers at all it seems, but that’s a different conversation I suppose.
fomine3 4y ago
For who don't satisfied with Bluetooth audio quality, I wonder is it fine to use internal DAC on a Phone rather than good quality external DAC via USB-C.

nl 4y ago

So you are prepared to carry a male-to-male cable around for this one particular case but not prepared to carry a much smaller USB-C to headphone adapter which literally solves every single problem you have listed in this entire thread? I just don't understand the reasoning. > So there's no positive aspect of removing the jack. It is objectively worse to not have it The benefits of removing the jack form the phone are clear: less connectors mean simpler and cheaper manufacture (so cheaper devices) and larger batteries/smaller phones.

whatarethembits 4y ago
Any cost saving from reducing connectors haven’t reached consumers at all it seems, but that’s a different conversation I suppose.

fomine3 4y ago

For who don't satisfied with Bluetooth audio quality, I wonder is it fine to use internal DAC on a Phone rather than good quality external DAC via USB-C.