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Unfortunately the anti-semite line was easy to make stick because of his well known vocal opposition to the Israeli oppression of Palestinians. So not an incred

Unfortunately the anti-semite line was easy to make stick because of his well known vocal opposition to the Israeli oppression of Palestinians. So not an incredible feat, but it was a case of corporate interests and the Tory party pushing the "emergency button" as an real Social Democrat was getting too popular and very close to becoming PM. Also, as seems to be the fashion for left wing politicians, he has a soft spot for Russia. I think some people still think there is a Communist utopia over there, it's very strange. Not a good look recently. I don't believe that there would have been no response from the UK to the Russian invasion if he had ended up PM, but it would have been slower and less impactful.

mandmandam 4y ago
> the anti-semite line was easy to make stick No it wasn't. Tremendous coordination and force went into pushing that line. > because of his well known vocal opposition to the Israeli oppression of Palestinians A view shared by right thinking people everywhere. Oppression is bad yo. > it was a case of corporate interests and the Tory party pushing the "emergency button" as an real Social Democrat was getting too popular and very close to becoming PM. Yes. But it wasn't easy, and it wasn't right, and the fact that the BBC and the Guardian and every other major paper and network failed to call the smear campaign out - and even fed it - is indicative of horrifying and deep problems. > as seems to be the fashion for left wing politicians, he has a soft spot for Russia Not really, he just isn't into escalating into war with a nuclear power; and recognizes that the Russian people are not the Russian leadership. This "nuance" has been shot and buried in a shallow grave. > I think some people still think there is a Communist utopia over there, it's very strange. Literally no one is saying that, except for corporate right wing media putting words in people's mouths. It's really weird that you'd believe them, given - again - that no one is saying that, or anything even remotely like it. > I don't believe that there would have been no response from the UK to the Russian invasion if he had ended up PM, but it would have been slower and less impactful. Again, this is a line pushed by right wing corporate media against left leaders all the time. And I thoroughly disagree with it. Like - how is BoJo faring right now? Do you feel he's respected as a leader? Come off it. And Britain is on the brink of blackouts without Russian oil, thanks to the dependence on oil fostered by Tories and their mates. A left, pro environment government would not have been so dependent in the first place.
- jen20 4y ago
  > Like - how is BoJo faring right now? Given the two abominations of humanity up for PM now, in 3-4 months he’s going to look positively Churchillian.
  - mandmandam 4y ago
    You say that like it's a compliment ...
- dogma1138 4y ago
  >No it wasn't. Tremendous coordination and force went into pushing that line. There is no need for coordination when Corbyn did nothing but feed the news cycle with stupid acts and dumb hot takes. He also directly supported and appeared on stage with people who are anti semites and just did everything possible to be guilty by association. >And Britain is on the brink of blackouts without Russian oil, thanks to the dependence on oil fostered by Tories and their mates. A left, pro environment government would not have been so dependent in the first place. Being on stage with known anti semites, supporting known anti semites (for other reasons), appearing on Iranian state TV and blurbing one hot take after another. The UK reliance on Russian fuels was less than 3% of total imports the vast majority of which were through mixed fuel imports from the EU. There were no direct import contracts between the UK and Russia.

mandmandam 4y ago

> the anti-semite line was easy to make stick No it wasn't. Tremendous coordination and force went into pushing that line. > because of his well known vocal opposition to the Israeli oppression of Palestinians A view shared by right thinking people everywhere. Oppression is bad yo. > it was a case of corporate interests and the Tory party pushing the "emergency button" as an real Social Democrat was getting too popular and very close to becoming PM. Yes. But it wasn't easy, and it wasn't right, and the fact that the BBC and the Guardian and every other major paper and network failed to call the smear campaign out - and even fed it - is indicative of horrifying and deep problems. > as seems to be the fashion for left wing politicians, he has a soft spot for Russia Not really, he just isn't into escalating into war with a nuclear power; and recognizes that the Russian people are not the Russian leadership. This "nuance" has been shot and buried in a shallow grave. > I think some people still think there is a Communist utopia over there, it's very strange. Literally no one is saying that, except for corporate right wing media putting words in people's mouths. It's really weird that you'd believe them, given - again - that no one is saying that, or anything even remotely like it. > I don't believe that there would have been no response from the UK to the Russian invasion if he had ended up PM, but it would have been slower and less impactful. Again, this is a line pushed by right wing corporate media against left leaders all the time. And I thoroughly disagree with it. Like - how is BoJo faring right now? Do you feel he's respected as a leader? Come off it. And Britain is on the brink of blackouts without Russian oil, thanks to the dependence on oil fostered by Tories and their mates. A left, pro environment government would not have been so dependent in the first place.

jen20 4y ago
> Like - how is BoJo faring right now? Given the two abominations of humanity up for PM now, in 3-4 months he’s going to look positively Churchillian.
- mandmandam 4y ago
  You say that like it's a compliment ...
dogma1138 4y ago
>No it wasn't. Tremendous coordination and force went into pushing that line. There is no need for coordination when Corbyn did nothing but feed the news cycle with stupid acts and dumb hot takes. He also directly supported and appeared on stage with people who are anti semites and just did everything possible to be guilty by association. >And Britain is on the brink of blackouts without Russian oil, thanks to the dependence on oil fostered by Tories and their mates. A left, pro environment government would not have been so dependent in the first place. Being on stage with known anti semites, supporting known anti semites (for other reasons), appearing on Iranian state TV and blurbing one hot take after another. The UK reliance on Russian fuels was less than 3% of total imports the vast majority of which were through mixed fuel imports from the EU. There were no direct import contracts between the UK and Russia.