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Dude, you're describing logging in. If I don't have cookies, I have to receive that email again, and it introduces a large amount of failure points EVERY SINGL

Dude, you're describing logging in. If I don't have cookies, I have to receive that email again, and it introduces a large amount of failure points EVERY SINGLE TIME this login happens. Instead of just once, on account verification. Seriously, I've built enough apps that require email verification to know how much of a failure point that email verification is, and it's a significant draw on onboarding when email guarantees are required early on. Doing it every single login (= every new device, every new incognito session, every now and then when the user clears their cache, every time they switch browser, every time they log in from a new computer, etc etc) is insanity, and again, everyone I know who uses magic link has given up on them, or made them extremely optional.

nickjj 4y ago
We must use computers much differently. I don't login from new computers often, I have my personal machine and mobile phone. It's great to be able to login from a phone without needing a password manager or manually typing a 50 character randomly generated password where I need to be sitting in front of my main computer to even login. If you really have that many computers you'd still need to sync a password manager between all of them to login with a password. I also don't browse with incognito mode on sites where I'm expected to be logged in unless I have multiple accounts that I want to have logged in simultaneously. I also don't routinely switch browsers and if I do I only have to login once per browser and I'm done for a year or however long the site saves it for. That doesn't sound like insanity to me? I didn't even think about them while writing my original reply because they are such outlier events.
- scrollaway 4y ago
  Great, you're one user who likes magic links. It doesn't matter how you (nor I, for that matter) use magic links, the majority of users dislike them for the reasons I highlighted. When building a site/service/ui/whatever, you take into account the needs of your users, not your own needs exclusively. You asked: "I really don't understand why so many folks hate magic links." - I responded with an explanation.

nickjj 4y ago

We must use computers much differently. I don't login from new computers often, I have my personal machine and mobile phone. It's great to be able to login from a phone without needing a password manager or manually typing a 50 character randomly generated password where I need to be sitting in front of my main computer to even login. If you really have that many computers you'd still need to sync a password manager between all of them to login with a password. I also don't browse with incognito mode on sites where I'm expected to be logged in unless I have multiple accounts that I want to have logged in simultaneously. I also don't routinely switch browsers and if I do I only have to login once per browser and I'm done for a year or however long the site saves it for. That doesn't sound like insanity to me? I didn't even think about them while writing my original reply because they are such outlier events.

scrollaway 4y ago
Great, you're one user who likes magic links. It doesn't matter how you (nor I, for that matter) use magic links, the majority of users dislike them for the reasons I highlighted. When building a site/service/ui/whatever, you take into account the needs of your users, not your own needs exclusively. You asked: "I really don't understand why so many folks hate magic links." - I responded with an explanation.