3 ms·

I would say they should try listening to workers about what's bothering them but in general there's not enough trust for that to happen honestly. Lots of compan

I would say they should try listening to workers about what's bothering them but in general there's not enough trust for that to happen honestly. Lots of companies have tried using anonymous surveys but very few trust that they're actually anonymous. They've tried using "independent third parties" but since those companies are paid by the employer, there's very little trust that identities will be protected, which could lead to retaliation. The irony is that there does exist a type of entity that could get to the heart of what's causing so many workers to leave: the union. Of course, the union discussion involves many more issues than just being a place where workers can be honest about their issues with the employer, but if employers want to stop the bleeding of labor, they're going to have to figure out what's really the issue. Not sure how they accomplish that without trust.

AzzieElbab 4y ago
Are you saying unionized workers aren’t leaving their jobs?
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
  No they go on strike and punish everyone else instead of just their boss.
TheJoeMan 4y ago
I agree these articles loosely mentioning “the pandemic” seems more like hand-wavey excuses from top management. I think many blue collar workers I know doing day in day out had a jolt that made them realize they were over-prioritizing their company that didn’t prioritize them.
s1k3 4y ago
Unions are not the salve for this. The great resignation is in effect an existential crisis for the working person. People are questioning their life values and gut checking their work prospects against it and making a change when necessary. The pandemic was a watershed moment for everyone to kind of wake up and say, “is this right for me?”
- throwawaysleep 4y ago
  Is it actually a crisis of values? I rarely see talk of a crisis of values on any of these forums. Every time I see a forum discussion, it is about pay and work from home. We didn’t all move to the public service to make social services work great. We didn’t resign big tech by the thousands to allow solar startups to be slammed with applicants. We just all shuffled our current jobs because those who shuffled got stuff those who didn’t shuffle were refused.
- TurkishPoptart 4y ago
  Yes, sort of, mostly because people were offered more money in unemployment than to stay at their jobs, which probably reduced the value of work itself in many's eyes.
- matt-attack 4y ago
  But can someone explain how these people can afford to quit? I’d quit too if I was independently wealthy. What are all these kids doing to feed themselves and pay rent?
  - MaxDPS 4y ago
    It’s not just quitting. It’s quitting after finding a better opportunity. And there are lots of opportunities right now.

AzzieElbab 4y ago

Are you saying unionized workers aren’t leaving their jobs?

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
No they go on strike and punish everyone else instead of just their boss.

TheJoeMan 4y ago

I agree these articles loosely mentioning “the pandemic” seems more like hand-wavey excuses from top management. I think many blue collar workers I know doing day in day out had a jolt that made them realize they were over-prioritizing their company that didn’t prioritize them.

s1k3 4y ago

Unions are not the salve for this. The great resignation is in effect an existential crisis for the working person. People are questioning their life values and gut checking their work prospects against it and making a change when necessary. The pandemic was a watershed moment for everyone to kind of wake up and say, “is this right for me?”

throwawaysleep 4y ago
Is it actually a crisis of values? I rarely see talk of a crisis of values on any of these forums. Every time I see a forum discussion, it is about pay and work from home. We didn’t all move to the public service to make social services work great. We didn’t resign big tech by the thousands to allow solar startups to be slammed with applicants. We just all shuffled our current jobs because those who shuffled got stuff those who didn’t shuffle were refused.
TurkishPoptart 4y ago
Yes, sort of, mostly because people were offered more money in unemployment than to stay at their jobs, which probably reduced the value of work itself in many's eyes.
matt-attack 4y ago
But can someone explain how these people can afford to quit? I’d quit too if I was independently wealthy. What are all these kids doing to feed themselves and pay rent?
- MaxDPS 4y ago
  It’s not just quitting. It’s quitting after finding a better opportunity. And there are lots of opportunities right now.