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There is an undeniable history and mountains of data that obesity is associated with higher rates of mortality, disease, heart conditions, and countless other n

There is an undeniable history and mountains of data that obesity is associated with higher rates of mortality, disease, heart conditions, and countless other negative outcomes. That this is even being debated for some desire to reduce “fat shaming” (or whatever the academia want to brand it these days) only hurts overweight folks like myself. Disclaimer: I am obese.

superchroma 4y ago
We can discuss health issues without being rude, however.
- fatherzine 4y ago
  We cannot discuss issues if we can't discuss the negative impacts of said issues.
- wizofaus 4y ago
  Sure but I've heard it claimed that even being asked to step on the scales by your doctor is an example of fat-shaming or a body-shape obsessed culture. Granted in some cases (where the reason for the visit is clearly not weight-related, as per examples in the article) it's possibly something we should be calling out, though I'd think the doctor's attitude and demeanor is key.
  - hollywood_court 4y ago
    My SIL has fired 3 different gynecologists because they each asked her to try to lose weight.
    - wizofaus 4y ago
      If she's just going in for a pap smear and that advice was given unprompted, I could perhaps understand. I know nothing about gynecology, though I do know excess weight affects ovulation.
      - hollywood_court 4y ago
        She could not conceive. She finally found a doctor that helped her conceive but she lost the baby and it was likely due to her weight.
MilnerRoute 4y ago
I think the article's main point is it's not specifically weight we should be worried about. > obesity is associated with higher rates of mortality, disease, heart conditions A diet high in fat/cholesterol/calories can indeed increase your risk of heart conditions and diabetes (and thus mortality). But that's the fat, not the obesity itself. Cholesterol levels can be measured independently - but some doctors just take the shortcut of saying obesity = unhealthy. This article is asking whether or not that's a mistake.

superchroma 4y ago

We can discuss health issues without being rude, however.

fatherzine 4y ago
We cannot discuss issues if we can't discuss the negative impacts of said issues.
wizofaus 4y ago
Sure but I've heard it claimed that even being asked to step on the scales by your doctor is an example of fat-shaming or a body-shape obsessed culture. Granted in some cases (where the reason for the visit is clearly not weight-related, as per examples in the article) it's possibly something we should be calling out, though I'd think the doctor's attitude and demeanor is key.
- hollywood_court 4y ago
  My SIL has fired 3 different gynecologists because they each asked her to try to lose weight.
  - wizofaus 4y ago
    If she's just going in for a pap smear and that advice was given unprompted, I could perhaps understand. I know nothing about gynecology, though I do know excess weight affects ovulation.
    - hollywood_court 4y ago
      She could not conceive. She finally found a doctor that helped her conceive but she lost the baby and it was likely due to her weight.

MilnerRoute 4y ago

I think the article's main point is it's not specifically weight we should be worried about. > obesity is associated with higher rates of mortality, disease, heart conditions A diet high in fat/cholesterol/calories can indeed increase your risk of heart conditions and diabetes (and thus mortality). But that's the fat, not the obesity itself. Cholesterol levels can be measured independently - but some doctors just take the shortcut of saying obesity = unhealthy. This article is asking whether or not that's a mistake.